New weapons with higher base damage then relics

[Horadrim]

I'm well aware that it is a realty.

The point is, that reality is a direct result of poor decision making.

That's a pretty short-sighted claim. Hitman: Absolution, Sleeping Dogs, and Tomb Raider all got rave reviews -- to say all of the money they lost was because of bad decision makings is a gross exaggeration.

Not to say they didn't make their fair share of bad decisions and choices with game releases last year, but they did release some solid titles as well. They just also lost money like most other companies did last year and they are feeling it as a result of their design mentalities not meshing well with the evolution of the gaming community. That's a problem all of the Japanese developers are struggling with. A year after Kojima's rant about it, we're actually seeing the fruit of his prediction in a lot of companies -- even some western ones.

He's just saying now, a bit more clear and concisely. Despite what others might say, It was unclear in the beginning and sounded more like "you'll get a consolation prize".

That's what I gathered, but I always assumed Skirmish weapons would be the consolation prize, much like the VW ones are.

[Areayea]

Hello everyone!

Below is a follow-up from Producer Matsui in regards to questions about how relic, mythic, and empyrean weapons will be handled moving forward after Seekers of Adoulin.

Originally Posted by Akihiko_Matsui
Hello,

Matsui here.

We've been receiving some questions in regards to what we will be doing with relic, mythic, and empyrean weapons moving forward, so I would like to address what I can at the moment.

We are not planning to enhance relic, mythic, or empyrean weapons via Trial of the Magians or through other methods.

However, in regards to these weapons that you have enhanced up to level 99, we are formulating plans so that they do not go to waste. (Including the weapons that do not yet have their afterglows.)

In regards to the shields and instruments, even in light of the growth that will take place for characters with Adoulin equipment, these in particular are still at the highest caliber and will not be addressed in the plans mentioned above.

While I'm unable to talk about the specifics at this point in time, as soon as the time comes where I can, I will be sure to let you all know.

and actually rereading it, I think what he meant was they aren't going to add any more trials.

Regarding 99, it appears that it will not matter if you have afterglow or not, as long as you grinded it to lvl 99, they may just solely make adjustments on those wepons

[Zumi]

What do you think we are paying you for each month?

Probably this

[Kojo]

and actually rereading it, I think what he meant was they aren't going to add any more trials.

Regarding 99, it appears that it will not matter if you have afterglow or not, as long as you grinded it to lvl 99, they may just solely make adjustments on those wepons

The way it's worded sounds like they are planning to add new gear than "With X Relic equipped: DMG+Y amount" or something, which sounds like a turrible idea, jes turrible.

[Vitus]

The point is, that reality is a direct result of poor decision making.

Fact!
http://xmedia.ex.ac.uk/wp/wordpress/?p=9159

[Luvbunny]

I'm well aware that it is a realty. The point is, that reality is a direct result of poor decision making. And they are very clearly allocating resources from our monthly subscriptions to other areas while FFXI starves. How long do you think that is going to continue to fly?

LOL it has been over two years so far that all of our funds are allocated to support FF14. ARR looks to be in a good shape, the new directors really taking account on every little things that made FF so special and give you enough easter eggs everywhere in the game - a lot of FF lore made cameos - yes even that magitek armor, battle chocobo from FF12, Terra's song, etc... Supposedly the new UI design is praised to be very intuitive. They managed to get inspiration from modern MMO like Guild Wars and World of Warcraft. It's very very beginner's friendly.

Vague statements however is very common coming from FFXI developers. They don't want to get into specifics because they know they don't have enough manpower's to get a lot of things done. Everything is not properly tested. Seems like they just throw a bunch of stuffs with "gated walls" mechanics to make sure that "new contents" are being made but players will have a very slow crawl-like progress so that only 3-5% can even try. They cannot top Abyssea, even they don't understand what makes Abyssea so good other than it seems everyone is able to consume it (and still to this day, consuming it and won't let go...).

I think they did great with Meeble and Voidwatch, with a few kinks but overall content is very accessible, progress is being made slowly but surely and rewards are plentiful (of logs and the other misc scraps). But they seems to stray from being able to store tags (indefinitely like Abyssea and Voidwatch, to 15 total or more like Meeble and Coalitions quests) - now you are forced to collect various things that dropped from "vague information".... SoA is basically WoTG part two, even worse than part one, it will be a sloooooooow progress and very slow updates, probably 3 years before you see conclusion on the storyline. Don't worry, take a long break, enjoy your summer outdoor, and move on. Come back when you see there are enough contents worthy of your money.

[Areayea]

well I think that's the issue... I think that they just need more spending money, they're putting their eggs in one basket again, like they didn't learn from last time... if FFXIV FAILS again... the same thing is going to happen all of a sudden XI is going to get a considerable size of resources to try to bring people back again (that's why abyssea got done so quickly; FFXIV failed, and they needed to hook players back to XI). If not, who the hell knows what's going to happen, maybe it'll get to a point where FFXIV subs pay for XI updates, so we'll def see what happens once XIV is released...

[Nebo]

That's a pretty short-sighted claim. Hitman: Absolution, Sleeping Dogs, and Tomb Raider all got rave reviews -- to say all of the money they lost was because of bad decision makings is a gross exaggeration.

Getting rave reviews for games that are performing poorly (losing money) is precisely the argument for poor decision making.

[MarkovChain]

The skirmish weapons are a pain in the ass to get. If you solo farm your part it can take probably more than 50 hours to be able to enter, and then you have like 10%-20% chance to get the weapon you want. In order to get a +1 stone you need to do several runs. Basically with ~50 millions you can get a blank weapon, whose stats suck, and with another 50M you can +1 it and obtain a wpn > to a relic or empy. Granted the money is split between members, but I doubt you'll find ppl willing to share this money everythime you want.

My group wants ninzas because we use monks as DD, and out of 15 cirdas runs we have only seen 2, while we need 4. With an average of 12M per run on quetz, that's 180M ! So yeah... that's still 30M per person in the party, and in order for everyone in the group to get one that's 60M per person. +2 stones are reported to be extremely rare (4 different ppl got one out of 15 runs). Then the augments on +2 stones are fairly random, so if you want a good skirmish weapon you'll need 3 or 4 +2 stones, so maybe 60 runs at 15M per run ... 900M ! yeah the price tag is much more important than relics or mythics, so honestly, noone should really complain about the skirmish weapons blowing out relics empy or mythics.

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

And they are very clearly allocating resources from our monthly subscriptions to other areas while FFXI starves.

Chicken and egg problem: is FFXI foundering because it is underfunded, or is it underfunded because it is foundering?

While Adoulin just got released and XIV is making headway, they just recently finished porting Dragon Quest X for the Wii U, Age of Conan is still going (just released on Steam in February) and S-E is even running Fantasy Earth Zero directly still for the Chinese market. XI and XIV aren't their only MMO titles, and the balance of resources between the two is not a zero-sum game.

Old game is old.