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    Player Camiie's Avatar
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    If I were SE, I'd ignore it, because no matter what they do with RME not everyone is going to be happy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teraniku View Post
    If I were SE, I'd ignore it, because no matter what they do with RME not everyone is going to be happy.
    Because it's better that no one is happy than someone?
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    Bayld is easy to get and everyone gets R / EX gear as long as you do stuff consistently during the Reive. I'm not even sure you have to actually contribute to damaging the Naakual. I WS'd Tchakka once and got a Macoquetza (I spent the rest of the time killing adds and made back 30k of the 100k entry fee from evaluations including the 4k evaluation at the end and the 1k I made mysteriously while dead)

    Naakual gear is extremely easy to get (and will just get easier since they're lowering the cost of entry next week if you've bothered to keep your coalition ranks up)


    (The Skirmish weapon easily beats the Naakual H2H even with mediocre augments)
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    Last edited by Asymptotic; 04-22-2013 at 06:15 PM.

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    No there are no gimp weapons that can beat vere, is that surprising ? Your argument about being able to solo light with your puppet is IMO wrong. I got level 99 Kenkonken recently and parsed myself on a reive (attacking a wall, hasted). The pet was doing 1% of the total damage, I was doing 46% and a vere monk was doing 53% (dualboxed and wearing pdt gear). So basically there is no way you can close or open light with your pet often enough to justify vere over other weapons. Skirmish weapons are fairly easy to obtain and even an average augment on a +1 ghasty stone+ninza are going to beat the DPS of vere and all other pup weapons.

    Stringing plummel is not that nice. The only realistic gear pup should be wearing during SP is attack because the mods are garbage. With shijin you will have access to to 100% dex mod, so in theory at least it is much easier to attune.

    Skirmish weapon are fairly easy to obtain compared to empy and relics too. You have 10% chance to get a ninza per run and a run will cost you maybe 2M since you'll split the cost between 6 members. By the time you obtain it you will likely get several ghasty+1 stones too. Tlalpoloani atm is about on par with +1 stone augments so I would not suggest aiming for it.
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    Last edited by MarkovChain; 04-22-2013 at 06:29 PM.

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    Player Asymptotic's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkovChain View Post
    Stringing plummel is not that nice. The only realistic gear pup should be wearing during SP is attack because the mods are garbage. With shijin you will have access to to 100% dex mod, so in theory at least it is much easier to attune.
    .
    http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/295972
    Fortunately! Pretty much all of the best WS gear PUP gets for Stringing Pummel is full of Attack!
    Outside of Matanca Harness, it's pretty reasonable to obtain too.

    With an appropriate set, SP will perform 1.5-2x that of Shijin Spiral (but Shijin is much easier to maximize as you said)
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    Last edited by Asymptotic; 04-23-2013 at 01:10 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asymptotic View Post
    http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/295972
    Fortunately! Pretty much all of the best WS gear PUP gets for Stringing Pummel is full of Attack!
    Outside of Matanca Harness, it's pretty reasonable to obtain too.

    With an appropriate set, SP will perform 1.5-2x that of Shijin Spiral (but Shijin is much easier to maximize as you said)
    Good stuff to know.
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    Player MarkovChain's Avatar
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    Oh and me and mdk think that the nakkual fights are meant to be aimed for casual players, because the weapons are basically soloable, all you need is spam reives to get your bayld. Beside they are great but not as great as skirmish wpns. At one point I though that they would be augmentable but with the introduction of delve I don't think so. They are basically the cruor gear of SOA.
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    Got a pair of ninza last night on my 9th skirmish run, augmented it with a +1 stone to DMG 59 Delay 51. Higher DMG and lower delay than my 99 spharai. Working on calculations right now to see which I should use for which events/etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toioiz View Post
    Got a pair of ninza last night on my 9th skirmish run, augmented it with a +1 stone to DMG 59 Delay 51. Higher DMG and lower delay than my 99 spharai. Working on calculations right now to see which I should use for which events/etc.
    ninzas with DMG 52 should be enough to beat spharai, ninzas with DMG65 to beat wildskieper reive h2h.
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