New weapons with higher base damage then relics

[Byrth]

Yeah, except that pchan is French and probably doesn't bother keeping up with US hate groups. In FFXI circles, KKK is the prevalent abbreviation for Kenkonken and it is fine to use it that way.

PS. Pchan, he was referring to KKK = Ku Klux Klan, a racist group that was very large in the early 20th century in the US.
PPS. I also agree that it's not reasonable to maintain AM3 when doing things like ADL pop NMs, but it is reasonable for stuff like merit-style killing, Voidwatch, Reives, whatever.

[Horadrim]

You know very well what it is meant to mean, context is everything. If you're getting offended over that you really need to lighten up and not allow yourself to be offended by things that you already know aren't meant in that context.

and "Ken" could just as easily mean a person named Ken-- it's not any less ambigous.

Not offended, I just think its easy enough to find a different abbreviation. Sorry that I'd prefer not to see "KKK" plastered all over the place? I'd prefer if that didn't become/continue to be a thing.

Meanwhile the idea that someone wouldn't know the reference just because they are from another country seems silly to me, but maybe I overestimate people's awareness of events in countries not their own historically or otherwise.

I also agree that it's not reasonable to maintain AM3 when doing things like ADL pop NMs, but it is reasonable for stuff like merit-style killing, Voidwatch, Reives, whatever.

Is it really that difficult to maintain AM3? Legitimate question, since Empyrean weapons aren't really my thing.

[Asymptotic]

If you don't have an inherent method of fast TP generation (DNC SAM DRG) then it's hard to maintain AM3 on certain types of content

Furthermore when people talk about AM3 maintenance they're talking about Mythics, not Empyreans

[Horadrim]

If you don't have an inherent method of fast TP generation (DNC SAM DRG) then it's hard to maintain AM3 on certain types of content

Furthermore when people talk about AM3 maintenance they're talking about Mythics, not Empyreans

Ah.

Don't Empyreans have 3 stages of Aftermath as well?

[Asymptotic]

Yes but Mythic AM3 is
"Occasionally attacks Twice or Thrice" (20% triple 40% double) for 3 minutes that can proc on WS (once)

Empyrean AM3 is
"Occasionally deals double damage" (50%) for 90 seconds (melee strikes only)

Empyrean AM3 isn't bad it's just not worth using if you don't have free 300TP for some reason

[Horadrim]

Yes but Mythic AM3 is
"Occasionally attacks Twice or Thrice" (20% triple 40% double) for 3 minutes that can proc on WS (once)

Empyrean AM3 is
"Occasionally deals double damage" (50%) for 90 seconds (melee strikes only)

Empyrean AM3 isn't bad it's just not worth using if you don't have free 300TP for some reason

Good info, makes sense.

This is why I'd greatly prefer making a mythic to finishing my Arma or Verethragna.. :/ If only the Alexandrite requirements weren't so high.

[Karbuncle]

What amazes me is that people think "Once best, always best".

This never happens in MMO's, other than when they die. Once upon a time, relics were "best". Then they got upgrades, and those were "best". New expansions come along. "Best" always moves forward.

except in FFXI Where they intentionally designed super weapons to remain best. which was specified further when the 75 cap break came. they upgraded them so theyd stay best.

i'll touch the point on joyeuse and whatever, which arent superweapons, and most expected it conceivable they could be repd.

i'll also bring up you should read the thread... what you've said has been posted and responded too about eighty times now :/

i'd go on but typing sucks on this. read a previous post of mine on this, i agree on stagnation sucking... but weapons arent the only upgradeable item in ffxi..we have 11 other slots :/

[Alhanelem]

Meanwhile the idea that someone wouldn't know the reference just because they are from another country seems silly to me, but maybe I overestimate people's awareness of events in countries not their own historically or otherwise.

It's not silly, because the KKK was/is primarily an American organization. it is very understandable that someone from europe would know nothing about it.

...anyway, In the meantime, I'm going to create an anti-Tarutaru cult called the PPP so that people will react with outrage anytime anything else is abbriviated PPP.

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

except in FFXI Where they intentionally designed super weapons to remain best. which was specified further when the 75 cap break came. they upgraded them so theyd stay best.

And 75 was going to be the level cap forever and ever.

[detlef]

Well, they they did update RME with each level cap increase.