New weapons with higher base damage then relics

[Taint2]

I would be interested to know the gearsets/options you used to get those numbers, they are *way* different than the results I'm getting from my gearsets on any mobs.

Gear
Skirmish GKT
Duplus
Hagneia Stone
Usukane +1
Ganesha
Brutal
Unkai
Unkai +2
Tenryu +1 Aug
Rajas
Tyrant
Misuuchi
Phos +1
Unkai +2
Usukane +1






Gear
Skirmish GKT
Duplus
Thew Bomblet
Mekira-oto +1
Gorget
Brutal
Vulcan
Phorcys
Phorcys
Strigoi
Pyrosoul
Unkai
Ele.Belt
Tenryu +1 Aug
Omodaka

5hits both weapons (450 delay can lose 4stp in TP phase but you are looking at incredibly small gains if any)

You haven't posted a thing except "thats not what I'm getting." Post your numbers....

[Toioiz]

Wow, so yeah not using expensive gear on mine, commonly available stuff, enough to get a 5hit but not +1 gear.

Weapon Type	GK	GK
Weaponskill	Tachi: Shoha	Tachi: Fudo
ODD Rate	0%	24%
Mythic AM2	0	0
AM2 TP	210	210
Mythic AM3	0	0
		
Results	Set 1	Set 2
Melee damage per round	258	293
Melee DPS	65.464	78.794
		
Rounds/WS	4.06	4.44
WS Dmg	1976	1742
		
Total Cycle Damage	3346	3331
Total Cycle Time	1082	1109
		
Total DPS	185.608	180.154

[Sapphires]

This grindy, random loot and augment crap that is SoA reminds me of diablo and i'm not interested.

So is SE ever going to comment on R/M/E 's getting an upgrade or are they going to just try and bleed everyone a few more subscription cycles before giving us false hope?
I'm not really in the mood to bayld grind and die of boredom or wait much longer before unsubscribing until they make a statement on this.

I never thought i'd say this, but maybe Tanaka leaving was bad for ffxi, these new weapons and stupid imbalance of time investment vs loot reward never would have happened under his watch.

[MarkovChain]

Wow, so yeah not using expensive gear on mine, commonly available stuff, enough to get a 5hit but not +1 gear.

Weapon Type	GK	GK
Weaponskill	Tachi: Shoha	Tachi: Fudo
ODD Rate	0%	24%
Mythic AM2	0	0
AM2 TP	210	210
Mythic AM3	0	0
		
Results	Set 1	Set 2
Melee damage per round	258	293
Melee DPS	65.464	78.794
		
Rounds/WS	4.06	4.44
WS Dmg	1976	1742
		
Total Cycle Damage	3346	3331
Total Cycle Time	1082	1109
		
Total DPS	185.608	180.154

What is the 24% for ? The empy ODD should be 30 or 50%, the relic would be 18%. Anyway I'm using the same-ish gear as Taint2 using anormal VT mobs from adoulin (motenten included chapulis) :

The JP wiki doesn't list any augment on the GK for +2 stone, it says +24 for a +1 stone so I'll assume it's D+30 STR+5 dex+5 (as those stats are found on the +1 stones)

Hasso/haste/marchx2/minuetx2/ no dia and no berserk

relic GK : 670 DPS
Shichishito : 719 DPS


Hasso/haste/marchx2/no minuet / no dia and no berserk

relic GK : 567 DPS
Shichishito : 675 DPS

Hasso/haste/no marches /no minuet / no dia and no berserk

relic GK : 285 DPS
Shichishito : 337 DPS

Hasso/haste/marches x2 /minuet x 2 / dia II / berserk

relic GK : 791 DPS
Shichishito : 741 DPS

Except when you bring your personnal DDB bard or COR it seems better, besides, we have no clue what the job specific enhancement on the +2 stones are, if any (mnk has counter+).

[hiko]

Any frame/head other than soulsoother or harlequin should be able to do more than 1% of the damage against you.

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not when the master get ghorndabla99s buffs. he can increase pet dps but he loose a lot more master dps on ja delay

[MarkovChain]

I did an ADL popset farming run yesterday on PUP ( 24 NMs plus 6 Dynamis lords). With KKK I could pop 3x wind maneuver between NMs without overloading so the pet had max haste. We had marchx2 minuetx2 boost dex haste and dia2

pimp MNK1 with vere afterglow : 28.44%
dual boxed mnk with vere : 24.67%
dual boxed mnk with vere : 21.52%
pup master KKK99 AM1 : 24.52%
puppet : 0.49%

the total damage of the pet was less than 4 stringing pummel and I did 65 of them (averaging about the same as the vere monks). The pet was the melee frame and totalised 7k damage in 2 hours. The blm pet would not have had time to land more than 1 nuke per NM and TBH it would probably be better. The RNG pet has always sucked so it would have been worst most likely.

Dynamis lords have about 80K HP and lesser NMs have about 40k HP.

[Rustic]

What amazes me is that people think "Once best, always best".

This never happens in MMO's, other than when they die. Once upon a time, relics were "best". Then they got upgrades, and those were "best". New expansions come along. "Best" always moves forward.

Otherwise, we'd all still be fighting over who gets Ridill and hiring hit teams to take out whoever was in line next for that Joyeuse spawn, while demanding our local senator get the RMT facility where they're claimbotting Fafnir blown up with a drone strike.

You have two choices. Stagnation or the inevitable improvement that makes your prior gear no longer relevant over time.

[Horadrim]

I did an ADL popset farming run yesterday on PUP ( 24 NMs plus 6 Dynamis lords). With KKK I could pop 3x wind maneuver between NMs without overloading so the pet had max haste. We had marchx2 minuetx2 boost dex haste and dia2

pimp MNK1 with vere afterglow : 28.44%
dual boxed mnk with vere : 24.67%
dual boxed mnk with vere : 21.52%
pup master KKK99 AM1 : 24.52%
puppet : 0.49%

the total damage of the pet was less than 4 stringing pummel and I did 65 of them (averaging about the same as the vere monks). The pet was the melee frame and totalised 7k damage in 2 hours. The blm pet would not have had time to land more than 1 nuke per NM and TBH it would probably be better. The RNG pet has always sucked so it would have been worst most likely.

Dynamis lords have about 80K HP and lesser NMs have about 40k HP.

Don't do this.

You know exactly what I'm talking about and why its wrong. Could just as easily called it "Ken"...

What amazes me is that people think "Once best, always best".

This never happens in MMO's, other than when they die. Once upon a time, relics were "best". Then they got upgrades, and those were "best". New expansions come along. "Best" always moves forward.

Otherwise, we'd all still be fighting over who gets Ridill and hiring hit teams to take out whoever was in line next for that Joyeuse spawn, while demanding our local senator get the RMT facility where they're claimbotting Fafnir blown up with a drone strike.

You have two choices. Stagnation or the inevitable improvement that makes your prior gear no longer relevant over time.

That's why I kept saying, but apparently FFXI is different for some unknown reason.

[MarkovChain]

AM3 is impossible to maintain

[Alhanelem]

Don't do this.

You know exactly what I'm talking about and why its wrong. Could just as easily called it "Ken"...

You know very well what it is meant to mean, context is everything. If you're getting offended over that you really need to lighten up and not allow yourself to be offended by things that you already know aren't meant in that context.

and "Ken" could just as easily mean a person named Ken-- it's not any less ambigous.