BST Native Dual-Wield~

[Ramaza]

Well I'm sorry you implied that Ruinator allowed BST to keep up with DDs here:

I wasn't talking in literal absolutes like your trying to imply. Not every DD in a VW or any other serious endgame event is extremely well geared to the teeth (99 Adaberk/Ragnaroks etc), so its not impossible to keep up with them. It's really hard, but not impossible. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt since I should've elaborated more on my end.

If you broke the classes down to something rudimentary like Healer and DD then sure BST would go under DD.

That is correct as most classes (jobs) in todays modern MMO design have always followed the trifecta of the holy trinity (DD, Tank, Healer).

My community (the people I regularly play with) loves my BST, PUP, and SMN. You know in those situations where they are a bigger benefit over my other jobs.

I'm happy that, with the way things currently are, your pet jobs are working out for you in the situations you feel are worthy for it. As the way thing stand right now though, for anyone who actually wants to be a career BST and not a bandwagon farm/solo bot, and actually wants to join in and contribute to serious endgame events (VW, Legion, whatever comes out of the new expansion pack etc.) as BST, things could be much improved at the moment.

Like I said you're looking at BST as if it was supposed to be a heavy DD and not a utility job.

And the problem here is that your looking at as simply NOTHING MORE than a utility job that you occasionally make use of to fill whatever niche situation you need it for while "main'ing" something else. This is pretty much the FFXI community standard for jobs that can't excel or contribute some kind of "X factor" in a more than a few party situation (see: PLD, RDM, PUP, Pre-Embrava SCH). I'm speaking more from the point of view of a career vet BST from 03-04.

In the utility role DA+10% alone is enough to bring it to another level (look at BST pre DA Ganelon and post). Further add in the 25% Attack and factor in that you have 0 draw backs in most of the situations BST excels at and you have an overpowered job.

Once again see above. The problem with your statement is that your overstating a native dual wield buff as some kind Shoha/Resolution brokeness, and while I understand your mindset this is simply not true. There are draw backs. A good portion of the stuff BST excels at these days your not going to be subbing /WAR to full on DD to begin with (Dynamis, Salvage 1, Sea Jailers, Old Limbus, ZNMs, Meeble Burrows in some cases), as lack of cures, and pulling hate off your pet, could be a huge threat to death if your low manning without a healer present. If an actual healer was present, with the way things are, you'd probably be better off taking a MNK etc. Most other situations you may not be meleeing at all in a pet onry burn.

Most of the places BST excels at really isn't exclusive to the job anymore. Hell a DNC/WAR can already do all the above, cure themselves, and make a double attack+ dagger if they were so inclined. To top it all off they can pop Saber Dance which, while locking waltzes, gives them yet another double attack+50%, and only decays 20% at finish for 3mins. I don't think anyone is screaming for the nerf bat just yet on DNC.

What native dual wield will do more than out weights the negatives. It will make the job more attractive for more serious endgame events, as the extra damage from /WAR makes the job look a lot more attractive with native dual wield. We already need more parity between the DDs, and far more balance between job classes in the long run. I'm not asking to suddenly become gods among DD, crushing even the most well geared Ukon WAR, but hell at least let me compete with a PUP fairly at bare minimum. Mog house >>> Job Change is not a fix for class balance, and I think any career RDM, PLD, PUP would agree with me there. I find the the only people who really disagree with this mindset are career jobs that are winning in the mess post-abyssea balance we have currently.

This is one of the few MMOs I've played wherein the "Beastmaster" class was so far down the totem pole of DD classes.