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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon6324236 View Post
    Jeuno has Abyssea in two different areas, Waypoints, four accessible VW warp NPCs right outside of the city from any of the four exits, is the most populated and easiest to get a Tele/Recall/Retrace from, and Meeble Burrows warps. The only way to get around you can not access from Ru'Lude Gardens or Port Jeuno are the Campaign warps, past VW warps, and OP warps. Two of those are actually accessible from Jeuno if you count in the fact you have a few warps near maws and Retrace easily accessible to you. That leaves OP warps, which are the hardest to reach from Jeuno. Everyone lives in Jeuno because its got the most ways to get around and is the central city right now for events of any sort. If it were easier to get from the cities to Jeuno at least it might make it so people may live in their home city a bit more often, though for that to really happen, Yells have to be expanded to them as well.
    OP Warp = Abyssea - Attohwa warp and then run that 60 yalms or so to OP. Or if you dont mind using another inventory slot, buy a homing ring from CP NPC, walk outside, use ring and you'll be at a OP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamin View Post
    OP Warp = Abyssea - Attohwa warp and then run that 60 yalms or so to OP. Or if you dont mind using another inventory slot, buy a homing ring from CP NPC, walk outside, use ring and you'll be at a OP.
    Yes, the same can be said for Valk and Jugner, however look at Cape T, its has no direct warp to it besides OP.

    The point I was making is that people already have 90% of warps in roughly the same location, to say they are spread around is just flat out wrong, because almost all of them are accessible via Jeuno, thats why the city is the most populated of them all, because not only is it the center city of the world, but it has many ways to get almost anywhere in the game in less than 5 minutes from any spot in the city.
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    I keep my HP in Upper Jeuno (less crowded), but I can get to my home city easily.

    Repatriation, it's only a short walk outside to the book and bam, home sweet Windurst.

    You don't have tabs, you say? Spend a little time exping someplace besides Abyssea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rustic View Post
    You don't have tabs, you say? Spend a little time exping someplace besides Abyssea.
    What if you have no need for xp? Capped merit and all 20 jobs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by yankeestom View Post
    This is precisely what I'm trying to address with this request. I would like transportation from the starter cities to be as convenient as it is from Jeuno so that I don't have to set my home point there with 95% of the rest of the population.
    This. I don't know why people are so scared of change, like it would start an avalanche of game-breaking easy-mode changes. It's a simple request that would spread out the population, make travelling more convenient, and go one step to fixing this game's design in favour of something more modern.

    People here may be scared of modernization, but unless we get new blood this game will die in a hole, and no one wants that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackstin View Post
    This. I don't know why people are so scared of change, like it would start an avalanche of game-breaking easy-mode changes. It's a simple request that would spread out the population, make travelling more convenient, and go one step to fixing this game's design in favour of something more modern.

    People here may be scared of modernization, but unless we get new blood this game will die in a hole, and no one wants that.
    It's not modernization I fear, but a lack of moderation (taking things too far). If you draw the line at the OP's suggestion of just putting a waypoint in each starter city, I support this idea because it would help to give people a reasonable option for their HP which isn't Jeuno. In this case, it's less about convenience, and more about having more options which are roughly equal (starter cities still don't have the magian moogles they were promised).

    If you draw the line at what is and is not "convenient", then I get worried. When people say that transportation should be changed because it's "inconvenient" and/or "boring" and/or "slow", I have to wonder where they'll stop drawing the line. No matter how convenient something gets, it can always be more convient, so the argument can be made infinitely until we're at the bottom of that slippery slope.

    This is where the paralells for the combat system come from. If all you're arguing is making the parts of the game you don't enjoy faster, anyone gets to make that argument and it will be different depending on their tastes. Maybe they hate grinding exp, so they want exp rates to be doubled/tripled/infinite. Maybe they hate how many abyssites and atma they have to collect in Abyssea, so they want that system changed to be fast/faster/instantly given to them upon zoning into Abyssea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon6324236 View Post
    Jeuno has Abyssea in two different areas, Waypoints, four accessible VW warp NPCs right outside of the city from any of the four exits, is the most populated and easiest to get a Tele/Recall/Retrace from, and Meeble Burrows warps. The only way to get around you can not access from Ru'Lude Gardens or Port Jeuno are the Campaign warps, past VW warps, and OP warps. Two of those are actually accessible from Jeuno if you count in the fact you have a few warps near maws and Retrace easily accessible to you. That leaves OP warps, which are the hardest to reach from Jeuno. Everyone lives in Jeuno because its got the most ways to get around and is the central city right now for events of any sort. If it were easier to get from the cities to Jeuno at least it might make it so people may live in their home city a bit more often, though for that to really happen, Yells have to be expanded to them as well.
    And I'd set my home point there if there was access to my mog house storage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon6324236 View Post
    What if you have no need for xp? Capped merit and all 20 jobs?
    so you do GoV for the tabs then. lots of ppl already are all capped on all jobs and merits (myself included).
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    Quote Originally Posted by yankeestom View Post
    And I'd set my home point there if there was access to my mog house storage.
    Ah yes another of those wonderful updates we still have yet to get...
    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamin View Post
    so you do GoV for the tabs then. lots of ppl already are all capped on all jobs and merits (myself included).
    So I go out of my way, taking time to get tabs from high level GoV mobs, to save about 1~2 minutes every time I want to goto my home nation. Seems like I may be losing more time than I am gaining seeing as at most I can get like 250 tabs a page in Gustav, but tabs are once a hour, so I would need 2 hours down there for 500 tabs. Thats 50 reps, if ya do the math, I'm takin more time to go do GoV than the time I am saving by doing it for tabs.
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    This game will stop if only a few die-hards willing to see past this game's massive-flaws continue to play.
    Look, I know what you mean, but there IS such a thing as too easy. Just so you know, by "next to eachother" I meant it in a literal fashion- not the "just a short distance" fashion. You can travel the most places from jeuno because Jeuno was designed to be the center of everything.
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