Whats the point of a double xp weekend if it doesnt affect abyssea or gov?

[Jaall]

you could make almost any kinda of jobs/pt work and get good exp, mana burn pt, rng pts. even full dd whm pts, full nin or thf pts. mnk burns, smn pts pet pts, and many more, just needed to know what mob/camp worked best for the pts.

Did you ever lfp on SMN DRG or PUP? If so then you must understand why this system is a million times better. Even DRK's etc had their moments when they weren't needed at all. Also all the waiting around pre lvl 70 for a tank or a healer to pop online was annoying! And like what Aeonk said, at 75 it was always waiting for a BRD or RDM. Granted, that was a little bit more common because people lvled brd for the awesome tpburns but still waiting nonetheless. I made all of my parties because my 2nd job was DRG, 3rd was SMN, and I got 9 jobs to 75 before abyssea was even considered. And lastly the game was never "innocent" when it came to power-levelling.... I'm sure SMN burn would come to mind.... This is just another form of whats been around for years, only SE gave up with saying they're against such methods and implemented an official version. Time moves on and things change, you just gotta move with them and accept what they bring you, because you can't go back.

[Mirage]

LFPing on thief was pretty bad too. I started as a thief but reached 75 on war just because people invited me more often on that.

My opinions on the entire state of leveling today is something like:

Abyssesa exp is good, although perhaps a tiny bit too fast, this isn't really a very important issue. I don't think exp leeching should be possible to the degree it is today. While I don't mind exp being fast, I do think that people should actually input some commands to the game servers while leveling up. However, I don't think it is good for the game's community to change this now, after it's been possible to do this for years.

I also think grounds/fields of valor are a flawed system. Yes, it increases exp gain, but at the same it severely limits people in where they'd want to go to get decent exp, and penaltizes people for even wanting to take a break and leaving the area for a bit, seeing as you lose your rather significant book exp chain and lose a lot of nice buffs. I'd much rather that the F/GoV pages were toned down in exchange for an even higher boost to normal exp per kill.

While I don't think lv30s should be locked out of abyssea, I think perhaps the exp penalty for being severely underleveled in abyssea is too low. However (and this is important), at this point in the game, it is way too late to change this. Changing how abyssea EXP works now will only penaltize new players, who need the exp the most and also haven't even taken advantage of this .. feature? in a very large degree, while it has no effect on most existing players who have boosted all the jobs they want to 99 already. If there is anything this game absolutely doesn't need, it is for new players to spend more time leveling than the people before them.

[Rustic]

I heard about the double xp event that is coming up soon. My question is what the point of doing this if it doesnt affect the two most popular ways of xping?

Does SE really think people will go out of their way to just xp out of gov or abyssea to do this? Especially since its already incredibly fast to xp to 99?

The only people i can see this helping are those holdouts that just refuse to do gov or step into abyssea (theres a whole ls of them on bahamut so ive met a few)

Just curious.

Helps newbie players get up there a bit faster. Simple as that.

Because seriously, Abyssea XP right now?



Where GoV is "Ridiculous Speed" and oldschool colbiri PT's are merely "Lightspeed". Double what you're talking about, and we'd frickin' go to plaid.

[Rustic]

This, right here, is the reason why making Abyssea available at Lv. 30 was one of the absolute worst mistakes made by the FFXI Development Team.

And although Grounds of Valor was a terrific idea "in theory", it unfortunately is being massively exploited by players for gil, which unfortunately, includes RMT activity.

GoV is about the "break point" for reasonable exp gain. Abyssea takes that into insanity mode by oldschool standards, and yeah- level 30 minimum for a zone where any level 30 would be devoured whole in seconds by the average expansion area mob was the dumbest move in the history of FFXI. And I've been playing for a decade. Bar none.

If Abyssea hadn't utterly overdone it for 30+ exp gain, this would actually have been meaningful for 1-75, at least. Abyssea should have been 75+ from day one, and that it's stayed a leech zone for the entire midpoint of the game is one of the glaring flaws to date. Seal it off and get people actually playing somewhere else for once.

[Rustic]

Gov isn't reserved for 18-man alliances, i'm sure there are plenty of people who do low man Gov pages.

I regularly do 4-24 for jobs in Dangruf Wadi. Easy leveling, the money's good, and I actually skill up in the process- and when I hit 24, I just go slap on an Emp. Ring charge and rampage on steroi-I mean Prowesses on lizards for 25th and some more shots at brown caskets.

Yay, Field Rope (and tons of 9K hi-elixirs, 20K adman ores, etc etc).

[Rustic]

Abyssesa exp is good, although perhaps a tiny bit too fast, this isn't really a very important issue. I don't think exp leeching should be possible to the degree it is today. While I don't mind exp being fast, I do think that people should actually input some commands to the game servers while leveling up. However, I don't think it is good for the game's community to change this now, after it's been possible to do this for years.

It'd have been good- for 75-99. It's idiot mode for people who can't even hit the mobs in question for more than a long string of zeroes, which is what they managed to do the second they made the expansions 30+ to access. And all it does now is sit there as an embarassing example of what NOT to do with FFXI. Close it off. The only whiners will be people who leeched their jobs 30-99 in fell cleave parties, and *gasp* people will move to doing GoV from 15-75 instead of 15-30, meaning that amazingly, large portions of the game will actually get PLAYED IN once again.

Heaven help us that we'd actually want to go somewhere and play that isn't an alternate dimension, right?

[Mirage]

No, rustic. Those "whiners" who leeched their jobs 30-99 already won't care. They will mostly be unaffected by this change, unless they want to start a new character/mule, so why should they be whining? It'll affect new players, not old/current players, and that's why it makes little sense to change it at this point of the game's life.

[Rustic]

No, rustic. Those "whiners" who leeched their jobs 30-99 already won't care. They will mostly be unaffected by this change, unless they want to start a new character/mule, so why should they be whining? It'll affect new players, not old/current players, and that's why it makes little sense to change it at this point of the game's life.

Except, y'know it'd happen to revive the midgame instead of making it 1-10,10-30, leech 30-99.

I know, that'd be a horrible thing to inflict on new players. Actually not being encouraged to AFK and having to hit buttons and go places to level up, maybe even seeing their combat and magic skills improve.

[Jaall]

It would be terrible for new players because the vast majority of the server have all jobs 99 or at least all jobs they want to take to 99 already there. There would be even less people LFP than there were back in the 75 days which back then was abysmal. SE would never be able to tempt new players in because even if they do manage to get new players they wouldn't get past lvl 50 within a few months and in a game where most of the fun comes from endgame, they wouldn't have much reason to stay playing. It was one of the major problems SE faced pre-abyssea and post-abyssea is going to be even worse.

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

Go back to the idea proposed in the f2p thread and make the free trial unlimited. A bunch of players capped at 30 and with no access to Abyssea regardless gives you a pool for low-to-mid level content.