Whats the point of a double xp weekend if it doesnt affect abyssea or gov?

[Siviard]

After reading this entire thread, I can understand now why Tanaka said Abyssea was a mistake.

Don't get me wrong, Abyssea is a terrific place to get your AF3 +2's, Empyrean Weapons, etc. etc. But it's the fact that there is SO MUCH EXP that can be obtained in Abyssea combined with the Lv. 30 entry requirement that was the mistake.

It should have been at least Lv. 75 requirement for entry. At least if SE had done that, we'd have people burning jobs from 75-99 in Abyssea and end up with Lv. 75 skills at 99 (unless they GoV book burn leeched, which is different entirely). I'd take Lv. 75 skills over Lv. 30 skills anyday.

SE should really reconsider the amount of EXP given in Abyssea. Reduce it by at least 50% so that it is equal to the amount of EXP that can be obtained in a good "old school style" standard EXP party.

[nyheen]

brb. iam going to just leech my Bachelor's Degree and skip Medical schools and go straight into being a DR and work right at the Hospitals

[Demon6324236]

This quote above me is about as asinine as Fox News proclaiming victory for Mitt Romney.

Depending on the job, no. SMN, yes, might take about the same time or longer to skill. THF, DRK, SCH, BRD, NIN, all very easy jobs to cap. Every DD is easy, most mages are easy, there are only about 4 skills in the entire game that are time taking. Ninjutsu, Summoning, Enhancing, and Guard. The reason why is because 3 of these skills are limited to only 1 to 2 jobs and the other is simply not cast often in normal situations so to level it you basically have to focus only on it.

I capped all my NIN skills except Ninjutsu in less than 6 hours after leveling it, if you can tell me you can get a job from 1 to 99 in a full day without touching Abyssea pre-75, I would love to see it.

[Demon6324236]

brb. iam going to just leech my Bachelor's Degree and skip Medical schools and go straight into being a DR and work right at the Hospitals

Nice comparison except that it is actually something you learn, rather than something where many numbers determine your performance. See, leeching something like that would matter because it is something you learn, then put the knowledge to use. In FFXI, you level, gain little knowledge of the actual things you will be doing with the job, and the skills which may or may not be gimped are easily leveled, where as in real life, you go through years of school for a reason, rather than in the game where if you level past a point quickly, you can make it up in a matter of hours, rather than a matter of weeks.

[Camiie]

Hey Fishyface, I see you're a 99 SMN, but you've probably got the skill level of a 30 SMN (most likely 20 SMN but I'm being generous). At least you'd be somewhat useful in Promyvion Holla/Dem/Mea.

But no, you wanted to get to 99 as quickly as possible. Obviously completely neglecting your Summoning Magic and other related skills. Though you have the 99, you're about as useful as toilet paper in endgame activities. I say toilet paper, because your lack of skill will most likely result in a WIPE.

Summoning Magic Skill has never been able to keep up with XP rates. SMNs have always had to do lengthy skill up sessions post capping XP.

[Fishyface]

Hey Fishyface, I see you're a 99 SMN, but you've probably got the skill level of a 30 SMN (most likely 20 SMN but I'm being generous). At least you'd be somewhat useful in Promyvion Holla/Dem/Mea.

But no, you wanted to get to 99 as quickly as possible. Obviously completely neglecting your Summoning Magic and other related skills. Though you have the 99, you're about as useful as toilet paper in endgame activities. I say toilet paper, because your lack of skill will most likely result in a WIPE.

lol... omg you caught me ive never gone to skill up in my life! Thats why i have i never leveled nin and never got all the red proc weps leveled or capped katana or got ninjutsu to 300. Heck i dont even continue to level my skills at all! No sir i just book burn and ignore my skills completely cause thats the cool thing to do right?

/sarcasm

Do you know/care how crazy you sound? Skilling up is hard right?

(BTW i picked smn when i first registered to the forums, it doesnt accurately represent what i have played or play now)

[Calatilla]

Loss of killspeed wouldn't be made up for by doubled mob EXP alone, not even close.

If you think that isn't true, you've never been in a good GoV group >_>

Gov isn't reserved for 18-man alliances, i'm sure there are plenty of people who do low man Gov pages.

[Camiie]

After reading this entire thread, I can understand now why Tanaka said Abyssea was a mistake.

I put zero stock in Tanaka's opinion. The guy had no business trying to run an MMO.

Don't get me wrong, Abyssea is a terrific place to get your AF3 +2's, Empyrean Weapons, etc. etc. But it's the fact that there is SO MUCH EXP that can be obtained in Abyssea combined with the Lv. 30 entry requirement that was the mistake.

It should have been at least Lv. 75 requirement for entry. At least if SE had done that, we'd have people burning jobs from 75-99 in Abyssea and end up with Lv. 75 skills at 99 (unless they GoV book burn leeched, which is different entirely). I'd take Lv. 75 skills over Lv. 30 skills anyday.

SE should really reconsider the amount of EXP given in Abyssea. Reduce it by at least 50% so that it is equal to the amount of EXP that can be obtained in a good "old school style" standard EXP party.

You make the incredible assumptions that no one ever made it through levels 1-75 woefully underskilled in ye good olde days and that no one is responsible enough to get their skills caught up to a reasonable degree before doing events. You act as though pre-Abyssea was some golden age where everyone was awesome and responsible and that's simply not the case. I was there. I saw it. I leveled and did endgame events during that time. Take off the rose colored glasses and see things for what they really were back then. The differences between then and now aren't as stark as you seem to think.

[Umichi]

All i can say is lvl thirty allowance was the mistake before aby even came out the creators said they envisioned abyssea as an endgame gearer and xp complimenter for higher level players, not as an end all be all for as far as OP's comment....... if you'ce ever taken the time to solo or do a group pty outside of abyssea you'll find the xp is significantly fast than inside abyssea if not the same with double xp. an easy prey mob with low defense takes the cake with 100+xp per kill dc starts topping 150's to 200 and EM mobs net a whopping 250-300 i believe....


Grab yourself a tank and a healer strap on that acc gear and go kick some ass! It's not often SE tests more modern day mmo xp event mechanics

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

Grab yourself a tank and a healer

This right here is why Abyssea and book-burning are so popular. They may not (or may) be able to compete with a properly built party, but properly built parties are a pain in the ass to properly build.