Petition to be put back on dagger

[saevel]

I have thought about making Mandau to see its power vs Excalibur's, but thats far off atm anyways, sounds like it may not be worth it.

Mandua is great for its raw DPS, its the dagger WS selection that's rather poor.

MS is 3.0 fTP (4.0 as DW) 60% STR with a 40% damage boost @99.

Exten is 4.0 fTP (5.0 as DW) 100% AGI mod.

vs

CDC is 4.25 (5.25 as DW) 60% DEX mod critical hit WS.

Res is 5.0 fTP (6.0 as DW) 100% MND mod WS with -20% attack. As it's fTP is copied with gorget / belt your talking 6.0 fTP (7.2 as DW) which is stupidly high for any WS.

Even the 99 MS can't really keep up with those two.

[Aethon]

Being a melee minded RDM i wholely want to be put on better daggers. Especially the ToM daggers. With the right gear choices and temper RDM can toss out some good numbers.
I use triple attack gear and that procs fairly often. Toss an Enspell 1 on there and that brings up a lot of free damage. With daggers natively low delay compared to swords we hit that much more often and our free damage enspells start really making a difference.

[ManaKing]

Honestly though dagger WS's kinda suck. MS @99 and Exten are ~ok~ but not that great when compared to CDC or Req.

That's why I want offhand daggers, for their stats.

Either a functional Mandau giving you a ton of Attack in an offhand or a Coruscanti would be ideal for melee RDMs since they are lower delay than a sword. You get more enspell damage and/or better delay ratios for superior main hands like Almace and Excalibur.

Both daggers could give something to their main hand, which is what makes them ideal. +40 Attack/extremely high DPS or 15DEX/5% Crit/ODD-ish effect isn't anything i'd scoff at.

[sweetidealism]

Wait, am I understanding this correctly? When held in the off-hand, Mandau 99 doesn't give you +40 attack?

[Arcon]

That's correct. No relic weapon does. SE thinks it's overpowered or something.

[Demon6324236]

If you offhand a Relic, its simply a high DPS weapon, nothing more.

[ManaKing]

Yup, somehow Excal + Mandau's 40 Attack was never meant to be 80 Attack for a RDM. For a small time when they increased the level cap to 95 and 99 they forgot about it, but then promptly informed us it was an error and fixed it.

You'd think if you got a Relic to 99, at least they would give you the attack off of it. By SEs normal logic, if something costs more, it's supposed to be better.

Also, as usual, this is only a RDM problem, because no one else can use more than 1 1-handed relic. SAM can use Yoichinoyumi and a Masamune to increase their bow damage with the extra STR, but RDM can't use an Almace with a Mandau to get 40 Attack that the job desperately needs.

[Arcon]

It is not RDM exclusive. Other jobs can't mainhand different weapons and use relics in the off hand for attribute bonuses, like they would with other weapons. You make it RDM exclusive only because for RDM it applies to two relics, which is an arbitrary restriction.

[Daniel]

Get Mandau and main hand it, evisceration is pretty badass >_>

[Camate]

Greetings!

While we will not be making daggers specifically for red mage, in the future when we increase the amount of weapons, we will be adding a variety of types that can be equipped by red mages. Though red mage is proficient in close range combat, they will not be receiving the same kind of daggers that can be wielded by thieves and dancers, who are the masters of this weapon.