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    Player Thore's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristal View Post
    If you are talking about nerfing PD/Embrava, SE IS rebalancing content so you are not required to use them.
    I wish they did that amount of thinking with RDM, instead of adding new jobs that do what RDM could have done.
    Yea, lowering the mobs hp by 10% is soooooo gonna balance out these nerfs.
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    Last edited by Thore; 10-25-2012 at 03:14 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luvbunny View Post
    brews for Voidwatch
    Actually have these, just not called Brews & they are better.
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    10% less HP but your opponents can STILL obliterate everyone close enough. Unless they WANT fights where only an aegis/ochain PLD can be anywhere near (insert target here) and nothing else but WHM/BLM/SMN/COR/RNG. "Everyone else: you're out of luck!"
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    Zeocat ~ Sylph

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luvbunny View Post
    That other game was restarted, fresh, as new games. I fail to see your points. We had a great year in 2010-2011. Then the "retarded" adjustments started to appeared in droves. After almost two whole years... seriously, like what, they just finally woke up over there?
    In XIV they also nerfed Seals gil NPC sell 1 week after Atomos event, because players are making millions and millions a day converting seals to gil, and the amount of gil flooding to the market is more than SE expected.

    Cruor gil just makes bot/12+ account owners more rich and everyone else more poor, why can't you see this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luvbunny View Post
    They had the amazing idea of converting cruor to gil before, with abyssea, and you used to be able to sell abyssea gears to npc. Suddenly you no longer have to buy gills since you can always make some when you want to.
    You don't need to buy gil at 75 era too, and ppl still buy gil pre-blinker nerf. Fail to see your point here.


    Quote Originally Posted by Demon6324236 View Post
    Actually have these, just not called Brews & they are better.
    Brews for endgame seriously? What's the point to even playing, grind gears and work harder to play better if you can just brew everything and win naked? A good way to kill the game maybe.


    Quote Originally Posted by Thore View Post
    Yea, lowering the mobs hp by 10% is soooooo gonna balance out these nerfs.
    Actually now that they also announced new SP abilities and pimped up many jobs, it may not be that bad. If ppl can clear pre-embrava nerf, it should work post nerf if you sing march. The only problem for legion, ever, is still getting 18/18 ally for Mul. Once you 18/18 it shouldn't be much different compare with pre-nerf.
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    Last edited by Afania; 10-30-2012 at 04:28 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristal View Post
    If you are talking about nerfing PD/Embrava, SE IS rebalancing content so you are not required to use them.
    I wish they did that amount of thinking with RDM, instead of adding new jobs that do what RDM could have done.
    They are not rebalancing them, SE is nerfing PD and Embrava unjustly because they do not want players to win that way instead of adjusting them within reason. This isn't much different than the Elemental Magic and Souleater on NMs/HNMs, and Modus Veritas nerfs.

    -Players bring BLM armies all casting the same element: SE makes it so NM's resist elemental magic went you ust the same element repeatedly in a short period of time (ended CS nuking too).

    -Players use DRK Blood Weapon+ Souleater and haste builds to do high levels of dmg: SE 1st reduces the delay reduction cap from 90% to 80%. After defeating the newly adjusted AV, SE makes NM's resist souleater DMG.

    -Players form large SCH parties and defeat a few NMs by carefully timing Modus Veritas after using a helix spell, prime potential target AV: SE makes Modus Veritas very inaccurate and made some NMs completely resist it and rendering a merit group worthless.

    What SE needs to do is stop just treating the symptoms, and start curing the ailment. In other words, SE needs to stop patching things for quick fixes for much deeper issues over making sound and reasonable adjustments to resolve them. SE still fails to address the underlying issues as to why people are using PD and Embrava. I believe the same could be said with the cruor nerf, I doubt if the overall effect of the change was considered in the scope of their decision. I think it might have been easier to find RMTs cruor farming in Abyssea to ban than to cut off a way to make gil for everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Afania View Post
    Brews for endgame seriously? What's the point to even playing, grind gears and work harder to play better if you can just brew everything and win naked? A good way to kill the game maybe.
    I was just saying it basically exists. I mean Voidclusters are basically brews, but more like you can pick how much your drink, full bottle of brew is 5 clusters, and only 1 is like 1/5th of the bottle. Is it the best idea ever? No, but Ill tell ya now some things I want I cant get I would love to brew for so I could actually get the gear...
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    And SE also hasn't said that the current adjustments are not the only adjustments that are going to be made. All I hear is people relying on their freshly printed money crying. Initially when they came out with "We're just going to change the amount needed for armor" for Neo Nyzul and there was uproar, now they've done more adjustments. They raised the amount of floors you can jump, and have reduced the confirmation time on lamps. Just chill out for a while.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon6324236 View Post
    I was just saying it basically exists. I mean Voidclusters are basically brews, but more like you can pick how much your drink, full bottle of brew is 5 clusters, and only 1 is like 1/5th of the bottle. Is it the best idea ever? No, but Ill tell ya now some things I want I cant get I would love to brew for so I could actually get the gear...
    VW is piss easy, if you can't get it it only means you're unlucky and it won't drop, that's it. What's the point to play at all if every content is beaten without getting some work on gears?
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    I'm not talking about brewing VW, and your ignoring what I was even saying to begin with, so not going to bother with fighting with you about it...
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