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  1. #681
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    The new War ability when stacked with mighty strikes basically removes all other DD from the equation it pulls so far ahead. Good balance!

    Warriorfantasy 11 is coming!

    While we are on the subject of the abilities, for Drg please give us something like zero jump recast timers for 30-60 seconds and then we are talking, nobody cares about wyvern buffing unless its like primeval brew levels of power and we know that isnt going to happen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loziel View Post
    The new War ability when stacked with mighty strikes basically removes all other DD from the equation it pulls so far ahead. Good balance!

    Warriorfantasy 11 is coming!

    While we are on the subject of the abilities, for Drg please give us something like zero jump recast timers for 30-60 seconds and then we are talking, nobody cares about wyvern buffing unless its like primeval brew levels of power and we know that isnt going to happen
    Seriously who is making the topic about War being so sickeningly overpowered? Why did SE even nerf Embrava and PD if they just gonna destroy all other DD except War? I guess we should wait until Monday.
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    Well really, SAM has the best SP in the game with the new one, even if WAR can pump out tons of damage SAM is going to basically have Perfect Defense but with alot more attached to it, which goes back to the philosophy, "The best DD, is a living DD." DRK with its TP power should be awesome if it drains enough, but competing with that WAR power will be hard, they just gave WAR the ability to knock their hit build down easy, which is what the TP drain effect was basically doing but while screwing the mob as well. MNK's is defense & unusable without hate basically and the DRG power is just bleh! So in the end, I would say WAR is ahead of everyone else in zerging power, but SAM is ahead of everyone else is surviving the zerg, and everyone but those 2 jobs are getting kicked in the groin except DRK if the effect is powerful enough.
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    Here's a question to Camate and Co. Will DRK's TP drain work even if your attacks deal 0 damage, due to a physical shield or something like that? I really think it should, because even if WAR gets to build TP a lot faster with their new SP, DRKs could get an edge against certain mobs that negate physical damage, by being able to drain a lot of TP while the other melees are unable to gain TP outside of sources of Regain. They could then proceed to unleash a high TP WS right as the physical shield wore off, and the mob would at this point also be left with considerably less TP than it had to begin with.

    If implemented right, this could allow a DRK to practically stop an enemy TP moves while the enemy resisted physical damage. It would still gain TP from spells and other magical damage, but this might be low enough for the TP drain to eat it away faster than it is accumulated. Sounds pretty useful to me, in certain situations.
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    Last edited by Mirage; 10-29-2012 at 04:03 AM.

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    Please stop saying SAM have the best abilities!!! SAM is the worst job of all with the worst 2 hours new and old. All the new 2 hours are awful, they are badly designed, and can be improved with some abilities are in worse position than ever. Stop saying job xyz is overpowered, let the lesson of Embrava and Perfect Defense make us be the smarter person and stop praising a great design idea when they have one. When a job is working as intended, keep it quiet, keep it silent, and never share this fact and posting videos on youtube. Or face the same fate that befallen RDM. When your jug pets are working as intended and is indeed awesome, don't say a word, or suffer the wrath that hit Falcor and Dipper Yully. This is a message to all of you puppetmaster out there, KEEP IT QUIET!
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    The point SE pushes is balance, but yet they have no idea on how to balance the jobs. It'l ok if WAR is best DD they have been for awhile. It isn't ok if they are so far ahead of other DDs no other DDs are welcome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loziel View Post
    Warriorfantasy 11 is coming!
    This.

    I thought group content couldn't get any more boring, but just wait until everyone is WAR or GTFO. On the bright side I'm really glad my one and only constant companion already has WAR at 99, so my gameplay is going to consist mainly of collecting SCH pieces and piling up gil until the expansion drops. I'm not looking forward to the day when this game's only source of fun is being an oppressive dick on the Auction House. Well, that and stealing NMs from idiots. Still, that day is fast approaching.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon6324236 View Post
    Well really, SAM has the best SP in the game with the new one, even if WAR can pump out tons of damage SAM is going to basically have Perfect Defense but with alot more attached to it, which goes back to the philosophy, "The best DD, is a living DD." DRK with its TP power should be awesome if it drains enough, but competing with that WAR power will be hard, they just gave WAR the ability to knock their hit build down easy, which is what the TP drain effect was basically doing but while screwing the mob as well. MNK's is defense & unusable without hate basically and the DRG power is just bleh! So in the end, I would say WAR is ahead of everyone else in zerging power, but SAM is ahead of everyone else is surviving the zerg, and everyone but those 2 jobs are getting kicked in the groin except DRK if the effect is powerful enough.
    Ukko's Fury +Crit +DA enough said! Not to mention the aftermath on emp would lead to a critical quad attack procs, and a war tp is building 2x -4x times faster from those procs, this kicks the shit out of drks and all other dd's, How is a en-tp drain going to keep up with all that?? Not to hate on wars but damn SE drk's cant get a BW fixed or get our new SP to proc on ws??
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    Player Luvbunny's Avatar
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    Dark Knight could definitely get some adjustments to make the job more on par with Warrior and Monk as melee DD. I think the image of Dark dual wield kraken club destroying their Sea NMs is still giving SE some nightmares, along with a bunch of RDMs posting youtube videos of their accomplishment. Seriously, if players are able to come up with sound strategy that actually employing certain jobs strong points, they should be congratulated and not being seen as exploiting the game. You want to make a game where people want to play and able to get somewhere.
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    There's basically zero chance that this new 2hr will hit the live servers in its current form.

    Have your fun on the test server while you can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    I want to say that there's a middle ground here but this isn't really middle ground. A lot of old systems were shit. Some new systems aren't much better. What's in the middle of shit and shit? More Shit. So no, I don't want a middle ground. I want something good.
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    >Twilight Scythe is overpowered that's why we're nerfing it
    >Weapons with double damage compared to relic

    LOGIC.
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