Quote Originally Posted by Zagen View Post
Either your group has been very very lucky or you don't know what you're talking about.

Can you do NNI without Embrava? Sure. Will you have close to the same win rate? Nope.
What do they have order lamps listed as? 5%? That means on an average run, you shouldn't even see an order lamp. Therefore, you have a decent chance at winning. Seriously look at the floors. The only things that kill a run are big "kill all" floors and order lamps. The rest are very winable in a very short period of time, if you do it right. It comes down to how fast you can get to your target for the most part. I had a run where we had 14 minutes left, meaning we technically only needed 1 sch. This will still be winnable. All this talk about things becoming impossible is silly.