question for GM's

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I've seen them they hide in the walls or at the books all bunched up in exp places where average players usually don't go. Once you hit level 10 sky's the limit for book burns. This isn't the problem its the abbysea reverse chain groups that are abusing the system. These keyboard slam characters are what I call trailer trains.

As for that AH exploit, the trial accounts are being used to transfer massive amounts of gil. You can't trade to a trial account but if they put up a 1 gil item and instantly buy it for 10 million it could be outside the RMT pawner system. Trial accounts are limited to trades but not limited to the amount of gil they can post stuff in the AH for. This way a trial or newbie account can place an item up for 1 gil and then then transfer millions by having an alt instantly buy it.

I have no suggestions on how this could be fixed without restricting the ah some.

I understand that the heart of your post is good-natured, but I simply can't ignore that it contains two blatantly incorrect insinuations of truth which are not fact based.

First, your post follows the general assumption throughout this thread which is incorrect. These are not trial accounts. Trial accounts have a yellow and green badge by their name that cannot be removed under any circumstances.

The badge is actually this, which in Japan is used to indicate novice drivers:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoshinsha_mark

Point of fact, these are not trial accounts. They are paid accounts. Trial accounts cannot enter Abyssea, which defies the prevailing logic of your post.

Now let me explain something. FFXI with all expansions and 1 free month of play was selling for 9.99 on amazon last month. It has sold on Steam for as little as 4.99. If the company that makes this game were sincere about limiting the issues you seem to care so much about, the first thing they would do is stop practically giving away the game for free.

But make no mistake, it's not free, even at 5 dollars. And these "trailer trains" as you so cleverly coined the term are paying customers that bought the product. They are using it how they see fit, and an SGM in this thread just told you it's not the job of GMs to police the activity. Report them to the special task force as instructed.

Second, trial accounts are not being used to manipulate the auction house. PERIOD. You have clearly never used a trial account. It's not that they cannot buy or sell on the auction house. It's not that they can't trade. And it's not that they can't send or receive deliveries.

IT'S THAT THE THREE FUNCTIONS I JUST MENTIONED HAVE BEEN COMPLETELY DISABLED AND DO NOT EVEN APPEAR AS MENU CHOICES.

To even click an auction house counter is completely disabled.

So no, suspicious trades are NOT coming from trial accounts.

They are paid accounts.

They are a product of Square practically giving this game away for free.

At the point you can launder 55 million gil for the price of a 5 dollar license key, it no longer becomes relevant whether it is free to do so under a trial or whether it involves a negligible fee.

It is a small opportunity cost. The price of doing business.

But don't insult anyone's intelligence by pretending that

1) Square is clumsy/lazy/stupid enough to allow trial accounts to make such transactions
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2) The persons engaging in this behavior haven't invested a significant amount of time and effort into formulating a solution to the problem of being banned for bad behavior.

The reason people are gaming the system is precisely because they HAVE outsmarted it, and until an admission of the facts is made, which is that the methods employed are organized, sophisticated, and effective, then all of this is really just a bunch of cry-babies on a forum whining that they didn't think of it first as far as I'm concerned.

[Sarick]

I understand that the heart of your post is good-natured, but I simply can't ignore that it contains two blatantly incorrect insinuations of truth which are not fact based.

First, your post follows the general assumption throughout this thread which is incorrect. These are not trial accounts. Trial accounts have a yellow and green badge by their name that cannot be removed under any circumstances.

Dear keyboard slam lvl 60 bst with a name I can't spell. You sound very angry about the information I posted. Have some courage and USE your real character name. Also, please understand the current system is broken. If solutions are created to fix the problems by bringing them to the attention of the developers so be it. Even if trial accounts are very limited that doesn't mean people aren't abusing the game in the way I mentioned.

They are a product of Square practically giving this game away for free.

So basically, another version of a trial account for a few pennies more? After some thought I decided to add this. The type of trail accounts I was thinking about where not the ones with the little flags on them as much as the ones where people pay for a few codes like you said and get the added FREE 30 day unrestricted subscriptions IE another type of trial.

It really doesn't matter how they exploit the game it only matters if nothing gets done to fix it.

Oh yea I saw a group of them in BLM reverse chain alliances Attawa Chasm today by the. Ironclad. I didn't report them because it's MORE of a hassle to report them then it is to ignore them. If SE wants to handle THESE RMT they need to kick it up a few gears with STF and investigate cases in a timely manner. Sometimes it's obvious whats going on.