To Dev's, are there any plans to fix Neo Nyzul Isle?

[wish12oz]

It's obvious to anyone that has done nyzul that luck factor is 100% of the event. .

That doesn't make the event not winnable.
In fact, with good players you can win 30% or more of the runs you go on. Quit complaining so much about an event thats easy to win, and go do it instead of being such a bad player.

[MarkovChain]

I'm just saying the way you put it seems insulting, it seems as if you jump to conclusions and think all others much cheat because they make progress in this event, even if you cant. I don't know if you have done this, if you care, or what is said on other forums. I was simply telling you how it sounded from where I'm sitting & how it seemed. In either case if he cheats then oh well, I really couldn't care less at this point simply because this game is disappointing me alot lately, and if they cheat then so be it, they get a reward they don't deserve and likely don't know how to use. This isn't aimed at him either though, its simply how I feel about anyone who cheats for this gear.

It's ok Mr troll, I don't think I mentionned anywhere I don't make progress in the event ? I'm entitle to criticize an event about as much as you, even when you disagree with it. Nyzul complaints scored high in the census, and SE implicity admitted massive cheating by "fixing the bug lamp", so .. welcome to ffxi ? Whenever people can cheat, they do it especially when it's not controlled. If you want to verify what I'm saying go in beaucedine glacier and enjoy the show.

[Sp1cyryan]

Yeah ok Mr noone, since when can you see lamps on radar when they are further than casting range ? Me think you are mixing somoething with something-radar (common cheat). Try harder ?

wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Radar

Casting range? What?

wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Distance

I never said I was anyone in the first place. So Mr. noone fits. I think Demon6324236 sums up the situation in his post or two so not much else really needs to be said.

You could "try harder" to say I am cheating though. It does not matter if we saw lamp numbers as we all split up on a lamp floor so if someone spots a register (commonly known as hey we haven't found a lamp yet) we all turn and run to it. It is the same strategy regardless. Seeing mob numbers does nothing either as we spread out and kill. If the floor is over go up and if not we keep looking for the mobs. Nothing changes that at all and why you think that saves time I do not know.

I'm saying claiming that the radar allows you to see lamps is an obviously skewed argument

Because knowing there is a lamp in that maze or not saves time from having to round corners to check?

Saying seeing mob numbers and lamp numbers when the order is completely random now, allows you to win much more is much more skewed than saying that the radar/compass helps.

A sprinters drink will do you more good than knowing there are a certain number of mobs on the floor. If the floor hasn't been completed then obviously there are more mobs. What is the advantage there?

In all honesty does standing near the "tha winnurs R jus' ull cheet3rz" line to make up for the likely assumption that you struggle to do Nyzul? It is completely obvious that it is not even close to impossible for people (lets say 6 PS2 players while we are at it) to win this event regularly.
Any argument for changing the way Nyzul is should not come to the basis of going on about cheats. My take on it is that someone like Razielrinz can't preform well in Nyzul and hides behind 'well they are just cheaters is why I can't win' line of childish and petty logic.

All these groups win not because they are superman with x ray vision through walls, but because they are a solid, well geared, and coordinated group from the get-go.

[MarkovChain]

The radar only show objects next to you idiot. The ability to check ITG mobs through walls, know in advance where a boss or a family is or where a lamp is has been a common cheat ever since nyzul V1 that was never fixed. There is a reason people QQ about nyzul, because even with massive cheat the win rate is pathetic (even less now).

[Sp1cyryan]

The radar only show objects next to you idiot.

What happened to you going on about casting range? AKA 20 yalms. Besides saying radar sounds close to a popular cheat. I suggest you differentiate yourself from those cheaters. So can we stop with the cheating nonsense being thrown left and right?

The ability to check ITG mobs through walls, know in advance where a boss or a family is or where a lamp is has been a common cheat ever since nyzul V1 that was never fixed.

I guess not. Is everything a "cheat" to you?

I suppose hitting tab repetitively and it getting things randomly in the distance you can not see yet is a common cheat too? While we are at is we could stoop to Rosina levels and just call gear swapping cheating. At this point I just don't know anymore.

There is a reason people QQ about nyzul, because even with massive cheat the win rate is pathetic (even less now).

OH SNAP! THE CHEATS HAVE EVOLVED INTO "MASSIVE CHEAT"!

What is a pathetic win rate anyway? I would say the win rates of others that have been mentioned in Nyzul threads are not pathetic at all.

I think people QQ because they are not having the game roll over and give up under their glare like with almost all the other content. Take that for what you will though.

[Demon6324236]

You don't insult anyone, yet you call me a troll for telling you how I read what you sounded like, and call him an idiot for... what again? Looks like he knows how it works, thats why hes linking it to you in the 1st place. And I said I don't know your progress, but from how you seem to act, and the general opinion you have given about its gear much like VW, I assume you either don't have any, or don't have much. If I'm wrong, oh well, nothing that really mattered to me, its just that you seem to be saying hes a cheater & condemning him without knowing for sure, and to be so adamant about someone cheating who of which you likely don't know I figure you either have a grudge against them, or the event, and in this case I suspect the event. The reason for that is because you have shown this attitude when talking to others about this, and even gave your challenge for someone to post a vid of winning. This all adds up to you saying anyone who claims to win, are cheaters. Or at least this is how it looks to me, in either case don't misunderstand my words... its rather annoying to have to correct it.

[Sp1cyryan]

and even gave your challenge for someone to post a vid of winning. This all adds up to you saying anyone who claims to win, are cheaters. Or at least this is how it looks to me, in either case don't misunderstand my words... its rather annoying to have to correct it.

I would go out and post videos just for them, but I am sure they would start saying that other members must have been looking through walls while making pacts with the the patron saint Joe Pesci while tickling the midget who cleans the bathrooms near the servers. Then happens to return the favor by quickly becoming a FFXI savant whom blinks once, sneezes, and wiggles their nose. Causing then a cascade of free floor nine floor jumps over and over. Magically handing 30 pieces of floor 100 gear to myself as well as the cure for the diabetes my static formed in the course of a month of running every three to four days for a couple of hours.

It is just willful ignorance and you can not do much about that. That attitude from them is mildly amusing though.

[MarkovChain]

What happened to you going on about casting range? AKA 20 yalms. Besides saying radar sounds close to a popular cheat. I suggest you differentiate yourself from those cheaters. So can we stop with the cheating nonsense being thrown left and right?



I guess not. Is everything a "cheat" to you?

I suppose hitting tab repetitively and it getting things randomly in the distance you can not see yet is a common cheat too? While we are at is we could stoop to Rosina levels and just call gear swapping cheating. At this point I just don't know anymore.



OH SNAP! THE CHEATS HAVE EVOLVED INTO "MASSIVE CHEAT"!

What is a pathetic win rate anyway? I would say the win rates of others that have been mentioned in Nyzul threads are not pathetic at all.

I think people QQ because they are not having the game roll over and give up under their glare like with almost all the other content. Take that for what you will though.

Your are using the same argument as the 50 other NNI fans that preceded you. So your opinion is just that, one of a cheater willing to defend his pixels.

I assume you either don't have any, or don't have much

That's because you don't think out of the box, the difference between you and me is that I can analyze an event whether I'm implied or not. I'm not the kind of person to QQ for the sake of QQing, I'm letting this to the BG crowed. The fact NNI is the worst event released ever, and that people used to massively cheat and still massively cheat. You know, back at 75 every single Fafnir was botted but it didn't bother SE much, and also people have always botted their fishes without SE doing serious countermeasures.

Also your opinon doesn't matter since you have one on every single which by definition makes you a bad troll ? Do the event and then make up your opinion.

[Demon6324236]

I have done NNI, I have not won it due to bad jumps or stupid party members. Its not as if I just talk out my ass. My opinion is the event is to luck based, skill mitigates the luck factor, so does gear, however neither of the 2 can remove luck as it is built as a core mechanic of the event. Luck should exist in the game as it is a base RPG & MMO element however the amount of things that are at random in NNI is to much, which leads me to think of it as a poor event. There are parts of it that are unnecessary luck, such as order lamps. Same time & code require teamwork, as everyone must time it together for them to win, or they must gather at the coded lamp, while remembering the way back to the start to continue on. Pathos are another thing of luck that I disagree with, they can easily kill you depending on what floor they land on and what one it is. For instance a Kill All floor, when your Embrava just went down at the end of the last floor, and you are restricted to no White Magic, or a Boss floor with no Weapon Skills.

In the end, I know people cheat and always have, its something people do on any game in existence, they find a way to cheat, and do it. In this case, people cheat in NNI a number of ways. Flee hacking, clipping, fillmode(sees through walls), the old .dat hacking, and probably more. The fact of the matter is that unless you know the person is cheating you cant really make that call. The attitude you seem to have about it leads me to believe you have not beat it, or have such a hard time with it, that anyone you see who says they have 15/15, and a high win rate must be cheaters because to you, there is no other way.

[Sp1cyryan]

Your are using the same argument as the 50 other NNI fans that preceded you. So your opinion is just that, one of a cheater willing to defend his pixels.

*looks at your signature picture*

Riiiiiight.

That's because you don't think out of the box

Ignorance is bliss.

the difference between you and me is that I can analyze an event whether I'm implied or not. I'm not the kind of person to QQ for the sake of QQing,

What..? Analyze a statement you mean?
Analyze a event? Like Nyzul? Either the English is poor or you have something to do with being able to analyze Nyzul as an event.

At least you admit you are crying rather than actually putting up some real element to debate. "QQ I can get a 99 relic, but Nyzul (which actually takes less work to get gear than doing ADL, who while we are at it also is not something you can win all of the time and goes down to chance aka RNG) because mainly cheaters only win Nyzul".

The fact NNI is the worst event released ever, and that people used to massively cheat and still massively cheat.

FFS when it comes down to it I see more people 'flee hacking' in Dynamis and everyday Vana'diel life because they are just being lazy. I am willing to bet there are more chocobo blinker bots than people who even do Nzyul.

The fact NNI is the worst event released ever, and that people used to massively cheat and still massively cheat. You know, back at 75 every single Fafnir was botted but it didn't bother SE much, and also people have always botted their fishes without SE doing serious countermeasures.

Also your opinon doesn't matter since you have one on every single which by definition makes you a bad troll ? Do the event and then make up your opinion.

I will leave you with your own response.

"Also your opinon doesn't matter since you have one on every single which by definition makes you a bad troll ? Do the event and then make up your opinion."