Quote Originally Posted by Crysten View Post
If you consider the factors going into both weapons, I honestly feel relics are not that hard to get. For everyone throwing around the argument that "baaw, my relic is crap compared to something I could get in a week," here's a crazy thought: why don't you get an Empyrean? You just said it was easy, right?

Relics only need money and two NMs in Dynamis. People are only restricted by the amount of currency they can buy/handle at any given time. One of my friends completed Spharai in around 3 months just by bazaaring in Upper Jeuno. The majority of time spent upgrading a relic is simply through farming Gil and buying currency. To me, that isn't hard. Yes, you could throw in the "2 years of sponsored Dynamis" argument, but really, money is all it essentially boils down to.

Empyreans, by comparison, are all time investment and work, made easier by the constant level cap increases. If you were one of the pioneers, going for say, a Masamune at level 80, you'd have probably needed an alliance to take down Carabosse. Anyone can get a relic. Dynamis isn't hard, especially now. Relic owners obtained their weapons through monetary investments. Empyrean owners obtained their weapons through time investments.

I will agree the original relic trial upgrade criteria were absolutely crazy though.

The only weapons that desperately need a fix at this point are Mythics. SE came so close to making that questline great until they plopped the 30,000 Alexandrite requirement on it, making it nigh impossible to complete a Mythic at this point now that Salvage is dead.

I just feel this argument is going exactly the same way as those nostalgic people from the CoP era. You got a relic when it was hard, and now you're upset that years and 15 levels later, there's now something better.

Boo freaking hoo. It doesn't cheapen the achievement, just get with the times.
problem, you said relics are easier now becauase of new level caps right? well emps are the same way. emps got drasically easier then relics did, you went from allys to solo/duo.

can you solo the dyna nms?
can you solo dyna?

you can solo emps though.

people really need to stop saying its only money and money is easy to get.