[dev100x] Relic & Mythic Weapon Adjustments

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Problem: While adventurers are enjoying abyssea and treasures attained including the mighty empyrean weapons, balance between these new weapons and the previous top tier weapons introduced(relics & mythics) are being ignored.

This is like saying there needs to be a balance between an onion sword and excalbur.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

That still dose not include a nescessity to update older weapons.

[Kiba]

Tsukino_Kaji,

Although it is clear you do not support the purpose of this thread to address the issue that relic and mythic weapons need adjustments, I thank you for your input. As the purpose is clearly stated to assemble input from players who share the same concerns we just want to have the opportunity to address this just like any other player hoping for their ideas and suggestions to reach the development team. Please be considerate on this. Whether our concern is valid or not will be determined by the community reps and development team. In my opinion, old content updated and changed turns into new content which is how the game has been developing, but I understand my opinion may not be the same as others and I do not enforce that upon others. Thank you again.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

But I still see no justification why an older weapon needs to be updated to the same power as the new ones.

[Rambus]

You can solo KIs without brew! and some of the NMs can be soloed without brew!

I do not think your understanding me.

its simple concept, you can solo emps if you choose too, you cannot solo emps or mythics.

getting 4 people is around what you need to do emp in 1 week, you can not do parts of relic or mythic with 4.

I really think your not understanding or trying to understand what I say

You didn't read what I said. Mythics need a huge adjustment in their difficulty/performance ratio. Mythics need to be better than Empyreans, I believe.

not what SE said! SE just made the quest too hard without thinking.

Spending 5 years on a Yoichi is also your fault/decision. Pot, this is the kettle. He's black.

troll comment? I do not understand this

[Crysten]

You can solo KIs without brew! and some of the NMs can be soloed without brew!

I do not think your understanding me.

its simple concept, you can solo emps if you choose too, you cannot solo emps or mythics.

Oh, I agree. What I'm saying is you can't truly solo an Empyrean without a significant time investment farming Cruor for brews, assuming you go for the harder NMs and you're not dualboxing. This is the part of the argument that I find dumb - people shouldn't overexaggerate and say "you can solo it in a week!" when in actuality most people are actually dualboxing and doing these in groups anyway, exactly as for relics and mythics.

I don't think relics need adjusting. Mandau, Annihilator and Amano (to name a couple), fully upgraded are still better and/or on par with Empyreans.

There are shitty relics, and there are shitty Empyreans.

[Michaeluk]

I don't think relics need adjusting. Mandau, Annihilator and Amano (to name a couple), fully upgraded are still better and/or on par with Empyreans.

There are shitty relics, and there are shitty Empyreans.

Wow you do talk some crap, first off the aftermath from massa 90 will destroy amano sill.

[Crysten]

Wow you do talk some crap, first off the aftermath from massa 90 will destroy amano sill.

I made the right choice to upgrade the joke weapon then ^_^

[Rambus]

Oh, I agree. What I'm saying is you can't truly solo an Empyrean without a significant time investment farming Cruor for brews, assuming you go for the harder NMs and you're not dualboxing. This is the part of the argument that I find dumb - people shouldn't overexaggerate and say "you can solo it in a week!" when in actuality most people are actually dualboxing and doing these in groups anyway, exactly as for relics and mythics.

I don't think relics need adjusting. Mandau, Annihilator and Amano (to name a couple), fully upgraded are still better and/or on par with Empyreans.

There are shitty relics, and there are shitty Empyreans.

pretty sure its understood your having help getting them done in a week, but the thing is people can get them all done in a week if it is a small group 2-4 useally, for most anyway maybe need brew for stuff like gavoild ( the dagger 75>80) but stuff like brutas ( sword, katana , dont know what else) are ALL completely soloable, the KI and that NM.

The fact is relics and mythics can't be soloed while emps can. Emps can be done in small groups ( that are like a week, some report doing them in less then a week) where those small groups would still fail doing parts of relic and mythic. Relics and mythics are harder to get then emps and should be better regardless when they came out. How meny relics do you see? how meny mythics? how meny emps? I see too meny emps and not enough mythics, that alone should show you somethign is wrong.

There was gear that was out in RoZ that remained top till abyssea came out. This game in general has a history of making new gear bridge the have- and the have nots, and that is where emp weapons sit.

new=/= better.

Just wondering, when did you start to play?

[Michaeluk]

Crysten if any one is comeing across as mad it's you with your deranged rants. We have reason to be justified with how bad se have shit on relic holders, if only you had finished that aegis you may understand but no because your a terrible player you never managed to fund it in time, so you went with massa the easiest path of empyreans and still want these joke to get weapons to be the best in game.

Btw woman/thing/it the level 85-90 relic alone takes longer to do than your joke of a weapon did, but as i said you were so terrible you couldn't get one made even though you fully admit to working on a aegis then in the same thread spew your nonsense about how easy relics were to get yet you never managed it. Stupid woman.