O.i.c, you want to see real dd #'s out of a rdm..... Geared properly, I just don't think its possible, they did make the other jobs for a reason ya know..... Think about it.... Rdm zomg I just did 7k with my almace at capped haste..... War >.>. /em throws his ukon in the dirt. Rdm does what its supose to, kudos to those who force more out of em and do things that others can't, but making rdm more gear to melee on par with "dd's" is just never going to happen..... Be a war you want to zomg, .... If you want to do it on rdm, that's cool to, but it was never ment to be on par with actual factual front line jobs.... They "can" but someone else probably will do it better, unless its casting slow 2, Dia 3 etc......