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    Player Aarahs's Avatar
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    You see a majority of players don't want HNMs. I see a full third of players do want them, more than enough for SE to implement them with desired drops. When your play window closes, it's opening for someone else.
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    Player FrankReynolds's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aarahs View Post
    You see a majority of players don't want HNMs. I see a full third of players do want them, more than enough for SE to implement them with desired drops. When your play window closes, it's opening for someone else.
    Those people want them back so that they can bot them and keep all the loot from everyone else. That behavior should never be promoted in a game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankReynolds View Post
    Those people want them back so that they can bot them and keep all the loot from everyone else. That behavior should never be promoted in a game's open world areas, but only in instanced ones like Uncharted Nyzul Isle where everybody can hack without the fear of getting caught and then get 15/15 within a few runs, only to complain after that all the other gear added in game sucks compared to Nyzul and they have nothing else to do in-game.
    FTFY!!
    (lol)

    I guess it doesn't apply to all of the players, but it certainly does to the great majority! :P
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    Player saevel's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aarahs View Post
    You see a majority of players don't want HNMs. I see a full third of players do want them, more than enough for SE to implement them with desired drops. When your play window closes, it's opening for someone else.
    And your imagining things. Those people are only in your head, your probably talking to them.

    I'd peg it at less then 2~5% of this games population desires world spawned HNM. And most of those only desire it so that they have some sort of status symbol they can show up in town.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raelix
    Ragnarok's aftermath is only 5% crit rate, even with lv99, so there's almost no point in using Scourge, you just spam Resolution. Even then you become just a boring meathead DD.

    Apoc with both Catastrophe and Entropy gives you crazy sustain of both HP and MP. With the Haste aftermath you can wear a ton of -PDT and solo almost any 75 content.
    Doing damage is for WAR's, DRK is about soloing 75 content yo.....

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    Player Eric's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by saevel View Post
    And your imagining things. Those people are only in your head, your probably talking to them.

    I'd peg it at less then 2~5% of this games population desires world spawned HNM. And most of those only desire it so that they have some sort of status symbol they can show up in town.
    As much as I disagree with Aarahs, you can't go around telling someone that their statistics are wrong and then make up some statistics without giving any evidence and then expect to be taken seriously.
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    There should be content for everyone, if people want to camp an hnm (and they enjoy doing that) or w/e let them, it doesnt bother me and if it drops übergear which is way better than mine then let them have it since they invested alot more time in it. doesnt mean because most cant play 24/7 that content like this shouldnt exist, minorities should be taken into consideration too. Also not that many people make use of the forum so its kinda hard to tell what % is for and how many are against... maybe SE should organise a playerpoll like they have on xiv to determine what direction to go with the new expansion.
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    "I drink it when I'm happy and when I'm sad. Sometimes I drink it when I'm alone. When I have company I consider it obligatory. I trifle with it if I'm not hungry and I drink it when I am. Otherwise I never touch it, unless I'm thirsty."

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    Player Camiie's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by vienne View Post
    There should be content for everyone,
    They shouldn't be worrying about appealing to niche groups when they have limited manpower and resources. They should be trying to cater each piece of content to as large a group as possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camiie View Post
    They shouldn't be worrying about appealing to niche groups when they have limited manpower and resources. They should be trying to cater each piece of content to as large a group as possible.
    so you're saying that people who also pay money to play this game and would like to see this added should just be ignored? and for as far limited manpower goes, SE is good at recycling its not like HNM is a total new concept
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    "I drink it when I'm happy and when I'm sad. Sometimes I drink it when I'm alone. When I have company I consider it obligatory. I trifle with it if I'm not hungry and I drink it when I am. Otherwise I never touch it, unless I'm thirsty."

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    Player Trisscar's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by vienne View Post
    so you're saying that people who also pay money to play this game and would like to see this added should just be ignored? and for as far limited manpower goes, SE is good at recycling its not like HNM is a total new concept
    Every HNM built in SoA is time and resources wasted to make something only a few people want rather than something that's actually good.
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    Player Camiie's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by vienne View Post
    so you're saying that people who also pay money to play this game and would like to see this added should just be ignored?
    Pretty much. They can't please everyone. They don't have the time or money to even attempt to do so. When that's the case, niche markets have to be sacrificed so that time and resources can be better allocated to appealing to a larger demographic.

    They already waste far too much time on content only a few people are ever even meant to see as it stands now. The last thing they need to do is waste even more.

    and for as far limited manpower goes, SE is good at recycling its not like HNM is a total new concept
    Would you honestly be satisfied with them just plopping down a level 112 Fafhogg/KB/Turtle on a 21-24 hour timer?
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    Last edited by Camiie; 08-11-2012 at 09:26 PM.

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