Will there be camps in the new expansion?

[Takutu]

Saying that everyone can't experience this is complete nonsense. Everyone has the opportunity to go to the camps, and compete. The game needs a sense of competition, and these events were one of the biggest competition driven events that also had the opportunity to yield some of the games best gear. I'm not saying all the best gear came or should come from camps, but quite a bit of it did, and should.

[Damane]

Saying that everyone can't experience this is complete nonsense. Everyone has the opportunity to go to the camps, and compete. The game needs a sense of competition, and these events were one of the biggest competition driven events that also had the opportunity to yield some of the games best gear. I'm not saying all the best gear came or should come from camps, but quite a bit of it did, and should.

Because we all know how kings worked out riiiiight....
was there... done it for 3 years. no thx I am done with camping forever. Such shity endgame design should never be implemented anymore.

[SpankWustler]

One day, this topic and the "People-be-leeching-experience-yo" topic are going to breed. They're just meant for each other. I shudder to think what the child of that passionate and disgusting union will be.

This topic has been made about a dozen times. It's been locked a half-dozen of those times because there's not that much to discuss and thus both sides just started messing with each other. The Development Bros barely listen to anybody even when they ask for input, so I'm not sure what the point of making this topic again could be, other than just to mess with people.

If you actually want to camp Neo-Arch-Fafnir for hours and have the cleanest house on the block, I recommend appearing naked in whatever field the Development Bros are frolicking to celebrate their summer vacation and communicating your ideas through modern dance. That seems about their speed, and it doesn't involve making this damn topic again.

[Sp1cyryan]

Saying that everyone can't experience this is complete nonsense. Everyone has the opportunity to go to the camps, and compete. The game needs a sense of competition, and these events were one of the biggest competition driven events that also had the opportunity to yield some of the games best gear. I'm not saying all the best gear came or should come from camps, but quite a bit of it did, and should.

No, saying waiting for something to pop for hours every few days with a crap drop rate is engaging is nonsense.

If you can not see there is still competition in everything people do in FFXI then you really are blind. I would rather fight over popping ???s in abyssea than spend a lifetime trying to out claim some dumb dragon.

I would rather do 200+ Pils all over again because at least I get more reward (cruor, gil, xp) out of not getting the drop compared to having to be in a LS and go through the list of BS associated with HNM camping. Besides, 200 Pils may actually be much faster while rewarding more than a top to bottom list of people in a LS.

It is better to have gear come from an instance like the new Ultima, and when did competition take priority over challange and strategy?

Do not pull the "trying to out claim others is challenging" card too. If that were the case we could all go compete over Gukumatz right now to suit your need for competition. If you have had to compete for him as much as others then you realize the flaw in the HNM system since his KI would never be 100% in an HNM world. Unless you enjoy it that much on being the first to provoke a monster then it is just a truly annoying event. Even then, leave the community out of it.

It is much more exciting and satisfying to go solo the last fight in Kupo d'Etat on BLU than it ever will be to have claimed Fafnir on your RDM and watch your LS kill it.