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    Player Eyeballed's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merton9999 View Post
    To level a single job OF 20. I could have stated it as "to level a single job, out of 20 possible jobs, to level 75." I don't remember my RPGs for taking up time. I remember them for stories, memorable characters and ability and equipment progression, all of which can still be enjoyed in FFXI. If RPGs were based solely on the necessity to take up exorbitant amounts of time, then I'd drop them today. I'll apply patience to my career and family. I'll treat my games like I do my nights at the bar with friends. I'd leave the bar if it took 6 months to get my beer and they made me work for it. Thankfully SE made a world where I can still have the unique experience with friends and family in a FF world and treat it like a game.

    I'm glad you enjoyed the old stuff for 10 years. I wish more people would just say they enjoyed it and leave it at that. But you're not. You're making statements that if people don't enjoy it anymore then they have bad work ethics, don't work for their achievements, and shouldn't be playing. It's shallow, narrow-minded and silly.
    What I'm trying to get across is, this game was fashioned around a style of play that I, for one, enjoyed participating in.

    I think it would be easier to accept if we had some alternative that is much more XI circa 2005 than WoW. It's like getting a basketball for your birthday because your parents know you like basketball because you play it so often, but one day you come home and the basketball's gone and been replaced with a cricket bat. You're left standing there, hands out, mouth agape, with this stunned look on your face. Cricket: The new Basketball.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyeballed View Post
    Besides, isn't that what RPG's have always been known for, taking up lots of time?

    If you were to look up any RPG in existence that has a leveling system will have entire web pages dedicated to how to burn through the levels quickly. Why? Because level grinding sucks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyeballed View Post
    What I'm trying to get across is, this game was fashioned around a style of play that I, for one, enjoyed participating in.
    And I respect that immensely. I'll cheer you on as you shout what you love to do from the rooftops. Sorry the game isn't like that for you now. But owning your preference for a video game world doesn't require passing it off as the official definition of RPGs everyone else should accept or gtfo.

    What exactly is stopping people from gathering up for some days of 70-75 fun page-less and ring-less in KRT? Is it frustrating because they can't find more people that want to do that so they want SE to force it on everyone for their benefit? This goes beyond personal preference to changing everyone else's game, and that I don't respect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merton9999 View Post
    This goes beyond personal preference to changing everyone else's game, and that I don't respect.
    Just like Abyssea has, for us?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trisscar View Post

    If you were to look up any RPG in existence that has a leveling system will have entire web pages dedicated to how to burn through the levels quickly. Why? Because level grinding sucks.
    Your opinion is noted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyeballed View Post
    Just like Abyssea has, for us?
    In what way? The ability to do old school partying is still there. You'll simply be doing it forever alone, as you deserve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyeballed View Post
    Just like Abyssea has, for us?
    Sure it has, but when did I pass off Abyssea as the canonical RPG definition, or say if you don't enjoy it then leave? It's not peoples' preferences I have issues with. I'll contribute a vote for keeping the game the way it is now, realizing others won't like it. I won't try to make the fact that I like fast xp so I can enjoy what I see as the actual game now on a variety of jobs as a moral crusade on work ethics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyeballed View Post
    Your opinion is noted.
    In what way is anything I said an opinion?

    Fact: There are web pages dedicated to level burning for every RPG with a level grinding system. There are a shit ton for Diablo III, and it hasn't been out for nearly as long as Final Fantasy XI (which also has such web pages dedicated to the same thing, many of which going back since the beginning).

    Conclusion: People don't like level grinding and want to get through it as quickly as possible.
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    Wait whats wrong with WoW again? The fact that back in the 2000s it was a competitor...? If WoW was skinned with FFXI models and monsters, and had a (Final Fantasy) storyline anywhere near existent (That I could understand without playing 40 games previous from 1990) id play the poop out of it until my brains fell out. But thats just my opinion.
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    /epic facepalm
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    In our wake will be smoke fire and burnt charred remains of those that have fell before us, We will not remember their names, as they are no more, the next challenge, the next horizon is what we strive for and Demand it be met with Ferocity, We Grin at the Possibility of death, Fear no Mob that walks Vana'diel or it's Realms, there is no tomorrow, there is only now, For pride, for honor, for Glory We are The Knights of Pegasus.

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