To: Mr Akihiko Matsui

[FrankReynolds]

When you expect to get something for nothing? Well, you said it, not I.

Nobody expects something for nothing but you. In the current system, people have numerous options for gaining exp. (including the old method). People letting other people leech is no different from any other form of helping out that takes place in this game. Me sitting there killing snails so that some other guy can skip 18 weeks of tedious soloing on BLM is exactly the same as me helping that same guy get sea access, or kill a NM for a quest. You are the one who expects everyone to give up what they like doing to come do what you think they should do. That guy leeching doesn't ever get pissed and make a thread about it when he gets kicked stating that people should be forced to let him leech. He's happy with what he got.

[Merton9999]

I hope the new producer returns FFXI to the old ways. I also hope he can convince my city to cancel municipal trash pickup so we can return to the glory days of littered streets and the bubonic plague.

Abyssea was the only part of the game that ever felt like an exciting, enjoyable passtime to me. Much of what came before it made me wonder why on earth I was feeding a frustrating addiction. The Abyssea era was also the only time I actually recommended the game to anyone I knew.

The worst part of these threads isn't that they keep appearing. It also isn't that everyone who starts them seems illiterate. The worst part is that people honestly get behind this "something for nothing" and "work ethic" nonsense that is completely misapplied in this game world. You're not getting paid to play a professional sport to entertain the masses. If you want to put your work ethic into a game, do it there. You're paying to be entertained. Little challenges, puzzles and time sinks can be fun and give people something to look forward to. But I want to work for that entertainment as much as I want to have to run a treadmill to power my television.

[Eyeballed]

Nobody expects something for nothing but you. In the current system, people have numerous options for gaining exp. (including the old method). People letting other people leech is no different from any other form of helping out that takes place in this game. Me sitting there killing snails so that some other guy can skip 18 weeks of tedious soloing on BLM is exactly the same as me helping that same guy get sea access, or kill a NM for a quest. You are the one who expects everyone to give up what they like doing to come do what you think they should do. That guy leeching doesn't ever get pissed and make a thread about it when he gets kicked stating that people should be forced to let him leech. He's happy with what he got.

You're obviously going to defend your wayward logic to the bitter end, no matter how silly you sound in the process. I should have guessed that a few pages back, but I can't help but bite. Done arguing with a person that carries around one very big douchebag in his signature. Bye for now.

[Falseliberty]

Lets say I talk some people or a good friend into trying out XI so they can play with me,
are you saying they should have to endure the old way of lvling crap (6 mths to a year just to get a job to 99)
just so I can play with my Friends.

Abyssea and GoV was much needed to help newcomers catch up and start playing and start enjoying endgame content

inbeforefalsedoesnthaveanyfreinds ; ;

[Eyeballed]

Lets say I talk some people or a good friend into trying out XI so they can play with me,
are you saying they should have to endure the old way of lvling crap (6 mths to a year just to get a job to 99)
just so I can play with my Friends.

Abyssea and GoV was much needed to help newcomers catch up and start playing and start enjoying endgame content

inbeforefalsedoesnthaveanyfreinds ; ;

If "endure" is the word you have to use to describe your experience, then perhaps you're playing the wrong game?

[Demon6324236]

If "endure" is the word you have to use to describe your experience, then perhaps you're playing the wrong game?

Perhaps your playing the wrong game if you want to take months to years to level up jobs to a level they can do something meaningful, because FFXI isn't that game anymore.

[Eyeballed]

Perhaps your playing the wrong game if you want to take months to years to level up jobs to a level they can do something meaningful, because FFXI isn't that game anymore.

You mean it's no longer an RPG? Ok, can't disagree there.

[Demon6324236]

You mean it's no longer an RPG? Ok, can't disagree there.

There is a difference between an RPG and a meaningless grind for levels that you have to do over and over on any job you want to be able to do much of anything on. RPGs are role playing games, most generally a thing you do in them is have stats, level up, obtain gear, and complete objectives or quests. We have stats, and merits, we still level up even if by a much faster means, we obtain gear almost all the time as that is one of our main goals. Quests are all over, we have the expansion stories, we have the nation stories, we have quests for spells, jobs, AF, Abyssea, VW, everything has a quest or story with it you can follow.

This is still very much a RPG, just because leveling went from a few months of dragging your ass around in areas fighting mobs in tedious battles to leveling up to max lv in 3 days or less, doesn't make it not an RPG, it makes it a fast paced game in terms of leveling.

[Reiterpallasch]

Eyeballed is like Rosina, but with a spell checker.

[Eyeballed]

There is a difference between an RPG and a meaningless grind for levels that you have to do over and over on any job you want to be able to do much of anything on. RPGs are role playing games, most generally a thing you do in them is have stats, level up, obtain gear, and complete objectives or quests. We have stats, and merits, we still level up even if by a much faster means, we obtain gear almost all the time as that is one of our main goals. Quests are all over, we have the expansion stories, we have the nation stories, we have quests for spells, jobs, AF, Abyssea, VW, everything has a quest or story with it you can follow.

This is still very much a RPG, just because leveling went from a few months of dragging your ass around in areas fighting mobs in tedious battles to leveling up to max lv in 3 days or less, doesn't make it not an RPG, it makes it a fast paced game in terms of leveling.

In all other cases of RPG's I've ever played, the world monsters played a key role that, in this game, have pretty much been stood down to the title of novelty outside of a few key zones. Now imagine if your next FF title, that you paid good money for, had 2-3 areas of interest and the rest were boss battles? Does that sit well with you? Does that sound like a finished game? Does it sound like an RPG?