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    I'm not even trying to point out insult to cover my tracks you proving it with each post ur doing. Instead of coming in here skiming my posts, stoning me for my experiences see for urself. You are helping those players. I'm not getting help. I have tried these suggestions... they didn't work. But my suggestion still stands.

    simply put... get over urself.. ur doing nothing but attacking a poster for their suggestion. Nothing more....
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    Quote Originally Posted by RAIST View Post
    It was actually 3 locations from your OP, as well as Zeruhn Mines....just another correction again.
    ok thank you... not really a mistake just forgot.. i'm just frustatred i neec to be treated in such a mannor just 1 suggestion. You and others like you need to step back and rethink how you post and come off in ur posts.

    You and others like you do come off rude. You do seem selfish, petty, and pull the "i'm right ur wrong" on just about anything that don't fall into ur realm of assumption. Simply put, you assume to much. And using poor examples that prove nothing poutside of the fact to are just attacking a poster for a suggestion that you hate just for sake of hate. So SE don't do it and "prevent other content". If you do not like the sugestion either 1.. do not post. 2 say you do not think it is a good idea with a well thought out post outside of personal reasons.

    I feel my suggestion is good and will be helpful to anyone who is new or returning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosina View Post
    I'm not even trying to point out insult to cover my tracks you proving it with each post ur doing. Instead of coming in here skiming my posts, stoning me for my experiences see for urself. You are helping those players. I'm not getting help. I have tried these suggestions... they didn't work. But my suggestion still stands.

    simply put... get over urself.. ur doing nothing but attacking a poster for their suggestion. Nothing more....
    [sarcasm]Oh no... it couldn't possibly be because some posts may have been misleading, and led to a misconception for some about how big a problem this may/may not be. Heaven forbid someone actually provides a different view based on what actually exists, and what can actually be done to adjust to the new layouts and such. Oh no....that's a direct attack on you.[/sarcasm]

    Seriously....please take a close look at what has gone on in this thread before it gets locked and some posts possibly get edited. If I was really out to attack you, I would have chimed in 30-40 some-odd posts before I did. This was not about you, it was about the misconception that this is a problem that outright prevents people from participating in content.

    If there was no remedy for the issue you feel so strongly about, then it would get mass support and SE might consider altering it. But as it stands now, it's been this way for a quite a while now, and it would appear a large number of players have adapted to the changes and moved on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosina View Post
    ok thank you... not really a mistake just forgot.. i'm just frustatred i neec to be treated in such a mannor just 1 suggestion. You and others like you need to step back and rethink how you post and come off in ur posts.

    You and others like you do come off rude. You do seem selfish, petty, and pull the "i'm right ur wrong" on just about anything that don't fall into ur realm of assumption. Simply put, you assume to much. And using poor examples that prove nothing poutside of the fact to are just attacking a poster for a suggestion that you hate just for sake of hate. So SE don't do it and "prevent other content". If you do not like the sugestion either 1.. do not post. 2 say you do not think it is a good idea with a well thought out post outside of personal reasons.

    I feel my suggestion is good and will be helpful to anyone who is new or returning.


    There you go again using that word... "assumption". I didn't make an assumption about your posts. When dealing with facts, either a statement is right or wrong, true or false---there isn't room for assumptions. That would make it more like an opinion--but when one states that something IS this way, and it IS NOT that way and someone corrects it, sometimes that is all it is. Perhaps you are the one making the assumptions?

    For the record, you claimed I was making assumptions about you and attacking you...all I'm doing is defending those accusations.
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  5. #115
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    This is better then hobo fights . *Grabs some poppin' corn and vittles* On a more serious note I'm surprised this thread too hasn't been closed yet. Opinions are opinions but it becomes a cat fight when you draw it out.
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  6. #116
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    oi vey... your making comments based on assumptions. 1 that i have access to wiki. 2 that i'm not trying these out. 3 making comments stating my experience is false, sharing stories of ur Ls that may or may not be true. you're pretty much being condencending (sp). you find this suggest point less and you gonna do/ say anything to try and prove it with out consider any other point of view other then ur own. I did thank and consider advice and tips given. Also tried it and didn't work for me. But all the tips and advice don't do much against my suggestion. Still pretty much making excuses for bad design.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosina View Post
    oi vey... your making comments based on assumptions. 1 that i have access to wiki.
    It's a reasonable assumption given that it's the 21st century and you're playing an MMORPG.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosina View Post
    because its a bit different... windower is a third party tool yes? And you can run add-ons through said tool yes? It's different between running an addon on with a game then having it intergrated in the actual games code work. SE know the code and frame work best. They know what limits they have. And it is their game, they have the final say. Being upset over the fact they can't do or do not want to do certain things is a tad silly. It is just a game. But please keep on topic... there is alreafy a conspiricy thoery thread. Post you concerns there not here.
    The only way it's a "tool" is it injects a hook.dll that allows further scripting -- the game itself can allow these mechanics as is. It's not some sort of complete reverse-engineering of code that was discovered in order to exploit the game. Windower literally just simplified and added certain pieces of code that allow these plugins to work. SE could very easily implement them. Whether or not they'd want to is an entirely different story, but making these plugins work is actually in NO way impossible or 'different'. Do you actually know coding?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Modoru View Post
    The only way it's a "tool" is it injects a hook.dll that allows further scripting -- the game itself can allow these mechanics as is. It's not some sort of complete reverse-engineering of code that was discovered in order to exploit the game. Windower literally just simplified and added certain pieces of code that allow these plugins to work. SE could very easily implement them. Whether or not they'd want to is an entirely different story, but making these plugins work is actually in NO way impossible or 'different'. Do you actually know coding?
    a tiny bit, enough to know there are limits
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    Quote Originally Posted by cidbahamut View Post
    It's a reasonable assumption given that it's the 21st century and you're playing an MMORPG.
    no assumption is reasonable... to assume is to make comments out of ignorance. Should ask. But most his post are already invalid becease of the given reason. And if he is unwilling to step into my shoes... he shouldn't comment.
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