I'm being selfish...ok....that's a new one. Guess that's better than being called a troll. I thought you didn't engage in slinging insults and calling names? Seem to recall reading that somewhere....
Originally Posted by Rosina
And yes, SE did feel it was necessary to add high level mobs for the post 75 crowd...in fact, the players were asking for higher level mobs. They had to put them somewhere. They took care to try to re-arrange things to prevent it from locking out other content, and when they missed the mark on that in some areas, they made adjustments.
Again, if you would take the time to review the changes, you would see there are alternatives that WILL work, if you would just use them. If not, then there wouldn't be new/returning players coming in and leveling up to need help with GK's, rank runs, CoP/ZM/WotG, TAU, etc....there would be an entire legion of pre-20 Windurstians crying for help. This is NOT the case.
And yes, misinformation. As you clearly stated (and I quoted earlier) you were placing higher level mobs in areas where they were not placed to further advance your argument. If you are going to use such examples, you need to make sure they are accurate.
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In case you don't see the that the facts don't support your claims, here is one of those things that neede correcting:
Here is what is actully there:the underbelly of the west sarutabaruta tower dungeons is now 80-99. Doing the "making headlines" is now hard and this used to be a low lvl quest. The door is now guarded by mobs that are meant for lvl 80-99 plaayer
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Seems this is further much ado about nothing....did some more exploring. For Making Headlines, there is not real serious threat. Zoned into the tower....level 1-7 mobs there. When I entered the tunnels through the cracked wall, yes...there were 80-ish mobs, easily avoided with stealth tactics. Got back to the mahogany door....and it was an empty room (save for a grounds tome). That's right... no mobs to aggro you when you click the door. 80-ish bats in the tunnel leading to the room, but nothing in the room. Could click the door, and use the tome to repatriate (to avoid running back through) with NO THREAT OF AGGRO.
Thread: Windurst region fix.
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07-23-2012 10:07 AM #101(0)
Last edited by RAIST; 07-23-2012 at 10:13 AM.
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07-23-2012 10:10 AM #102my ps3 don't handle it well wiki and etc are laggy. I have tried
Originally Posted by RAIST
and being 99 and being there isn't moot infact thats the point i'm making ur a 99... of course your gonna be ok in this area. I had help on making headlines. My ex was a 90whm/blm (best gear and did gear swap) And he still died from a nasty link.
here is my current character mithra war level 17 sub thf. i have 4K gil in the level 10 scale set no accessories using a level 15 great sword (cheapest high dmg weapon i can find) my highest is 18 thf.
What you are doing is pointless, your basing every point on assumption and basing it off ur charactef which is well established. There is a hue difference between a newy made character and well established one. So it isn't moot point to discredit ur finding based on that. Since your experienment wasn't using the same type of character setting.(0)
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07-23-2012 10:21 AM #103
being called selfish by what your doing isn't an insult so much as calling out on obvious attitude. I don't see too many ppl solo around my level eiher. i'm choosing to solo out of not finding book burn fun.
before you make another comment to prove me wrong... play @ my level.
1) start a fresh character in windust w/o any assistence such as gil from anyone ear from mules etc etc
2) solo thf to 18
3) after doing advance job solo to 17 as war
do this all in windurst. Only way you gonna prove ur claims right is to do it urself under my current situation. Not take an established character and say that is moot.
I can tell you only skim my posts, cuz 1/2 of what you ask is already explained. I read ur posts in full. And they do come off selfish. Since all you are doing is trying to counter my suggestion simply because u find it pointless. You aready admited to this. As for the north tower in west sarutabaruta.. it was a guess i didn't get a chance to fix it. But ty for fixing it for me. I appologise for that(1)
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07-23-2012 10:21 AM #104If you can't browse it, then ask in your LS...the information is out there, and some may actually know it by heart.
Originally Posted by Rosina
My level doesn't matter...if they are mobs level 1-7 for me, they will check as level 1-7 to you. That is their actual level, it has NOTHING to do with my level. I wasn't going there to fight them, I was going there to see what was actually there. The SAME BOMBS AND BOGGARTS are at the 3-mage door as were there ages ago when I first went there. You claimed that area is now full of higher level mobs, which again...simply IS NOT TRUE.
Facts are facts...what you stated is false, or at the very least misleading. I'm not making assumptions...I'm looking at your words, and they are NOT in line with the truth. Others may read this without investigating and think you are right, when in fact you were WRONG. Can you just not accept that fact?(0){DISCLAIMER} Posts may contain opinions based on personal experiences that are not be meant to be taken as facts. What may appear as fact with no source reference may be recollection of information with no source, and may be subject to scrutiny without source reference. Any debate over validity of said facts without source references may be considered conjecture of all parties in that debate. Player comments may not be the expressed position/consent of SE, their affiliates, or any employees of said organizations. Please take these posts with a grain of salt if you are offended by the views of the player and understand that opinions are like assholes... everyone has one, not everyone wants to hear it.
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07-23-2012 10:29 AM #105Correcting misleading posts to prevent others from being mislead by misinformation is not being selfish.
Originally Posted by Rosina
I don't need to level a new character to know that one can technically level from 1 to 17 right outside Windhurst, it's clearly laid out in the wiki. If one wants faster xp, he/she can move out to nearby zones. It's all laid out nicely so one can map out their path all the way to 99 if they wanted to. We've already been taking new/returning players thorugh this very process. My main LS leader just unlocked subjobs for their son for the second time today. It's not just hyperbole, we've seen it in action.(1)Last edited by RAIST; 07-23-2012 at 10:31 AM.
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07-23-2012 10:33 AM #106
your level and character does matter... as does your reason for doing what ur doing. You reason is a selfish one. You can't do what ur trying to do under an estabished character since there is a huge difference. Try those leveling guides for windy solo as a newy made character w/o help then get back to me. But stop and think what you are actually doingb and for what purpose cuz honesty u are being rude. Ur taking my problem and my suggestion for a fix and spitting on it.
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07-23-2012 10:39 AM #107ur not corecting/corrected anything other then 2 locations. but ur trying to insut my experience eveing under an estabished character. Thats what I feel is going on. But honest to god... its a effin suggestion no need to to what ur doing.. ur just being rude. Ur punishing me for some slight info which was infact guesses. if ppl in ur LS are not having a hard time thats
Originally Posted by RAIST
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07-23-2012 10:42 AM #108
As already stated, we've been doing this for other players....it has already be vetted by putting it in practice. I don't need to spend the extra money to prove a point that has already been proven time and time again. The fact that you are having difficulty doesn't mean everyone else is. I know that applies in reverse too, but either way, it is an issue bound to the individual more so than the game design. Something is different for those that are successful versus those that aren't--if they are using the same tools, then it comes down to the differences in choices made by those individuals.
The facts have been put out there, links provided, and suggestions have been made. If you can't accept that there is a better way to do it and prefer to hurl insults and try to dodge your responsibility for the mistakes/failings in both the forums and the game, that is your choice. The record stands as proof of the truth, and that is where I will leave it. Let others decide for themselves.(1){DISCLAIMER} Posts may contain opinions based on personal experiences that are not be meant to be taken as facts. What may appear as fact with no source reference may be recollection of information with no source, and may be subject to scrutiny without source reference. Any debate over validity of said facts without source references may be considered conjecture of all parties in that debate. Player comments may not be the expressed position/consent of SE, their affiliates, or any employees of said organizations. Please take these posts with a grain of salt if you are offended by the views of the player and understand that opinions are like assholes... everyone has one, not everyone wants to hear it.
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07-23-2012 10:44 AM #109
not me, if no one else is having an issue thats them not me. I'm having an issue. I dislike a change, i'm asking not demaning said change. If u hate it.. don't post. But don't go out of ur way to stone the poster for the suggestion, more so for a petty reason as "i find it pointless". I sugest if you have a better reason to be against this chane that isn't a selfish one share it. If not stop posting. Cuz all i feel you sare doing is belitting me and trying to paint a bad picture about me. I have asked my LS to level with me they are busy with their own thing.
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07-23-2012 10:44 AM #110It was actually 3 locations from your OP, as well as Zeruhn Mines....just another correction again.
Originally Posted by Rosina
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