Up the lvl to enter abyssea to 70 PLEASE

[Scuro]

Well this certainly is getting heated lol.

You don't get "bonus points" or increased street cred for having leveled your job up the long way, and whose to say it really is as such? I mean I could say I spent the time and leveled my RNG up for years! But the fact of the matter is its 99 and I got it in 3 days. I've seen people that have taken the time to level up their jobs be just as worthless as a BLU with 15 blue magic skill that zerged it to 99. The player is what matters and its hard to judge someone by using the most effective and efficient method to level. Thats like presenting a race and giving the competitors the ability to use an up hill and windy path vs a straight path that is down hill. Of course it makes no sense to burn yourself out winding around up hill when the ability to win is straight and down hill. All that matters is that you get to the end goal, it doesn't matter how you get there as long as you keep yourself strong. Why waste your time in nostalgia of how jobs "should" be leveled when the game has evolved from that. If you are so determined to cling to your ways of the past, than either get used to playing solo (because people don't level outside of GoV and Abyssea in old school parties) or do what all the people that couldn't move along with the prosperity of the game, quit.

I mean damn, people are always saying how GoV and Abyssea's exp system is ruining the game, thats BS, than how about bone parties with MNK's way back in the day? Or Colibri parties to get those merits? They were fast means of exp that eliminated past methods entirely, yet nobody b*tched than other than the real old school players. So to say that this system is "broken" is to be ignorant of what FFXI is, because if you think its a 1 year grind to 75 killing easy prey mobs solo or teaming up with 6 people killing maybe 150 exp a mob parties.... Than you are dead wrong.

Also, I'm sorry but if you are playing this game and you don't use Wiki, you need to step up your game, now granted the guides of the jobs are dated, and not as reliable as they used to except for a few but still it is the most reliable source of information to learn how to play at your most optimal abilities. I highly doubt someone playing this game doesn't own a computer that has basic internet connection, and if you do, what stone age rock are you living under? And if you really don't, go to a public library or something, and if that doesn't work, I'm sure you can ask a friend to access it for you, but to not use wiki is like...

WHM's NOT using <STAL> macros to heal better and yelling at DD's to be less efficient with gear swaps so that they can cure.

NIN's that haven't bought Utsusemi scrolls Ni and Ichi because they are a "DD" and they merited into Sange.

RDM's that think they should be a front line DD because they have high sword skill

BLM that doesn't skill up elemental skill or dark skill and doesn't understand why he isn't proc'n that Grellow or why the stuns and sleeps don't' land for shit.

.... I could go on but you see my point, to not use Wiki is to just be ignorant of the game, its eating cereal with out a spoon.

[FrankReynolds]

I leveled thief the long way. Soloed from 60ish to 75. Didn't get to try trick attack with assassin job trait til a merit party. Turns out people don't line up, and thiefs don't tp with a crossbow equipped because bards do all the pulling. Stand there and shoot acid bolts at colibri, and see how long it takes for the sam leader to kick you. Most of what you learn leveling is thrown out and you are left with what gear sets and macros you learned to make. all of which can be learned in a few minutes on the interwebs.

TLDR: leveling the old way is a waste of time unless you really enjoy leveling. Most people don't.

[TybudX]

I want Abyssea to have a higher entry limit because I'm petty and I can't find 5 other people that want to waste hours and hours of their time getting junk drops in an exp party instead of hitting the level cap quickly so they enjoy the fun parts of the game. Obviously I have a mental condition that prevents me from being able to keep my mouth shut for more than 2 minutes, so the few people I do meet end up hating me by the third minute. It's only right that SE should force the entire population of FFXI to suffer so that I can go on not having any social skills whatsoever.

[Krystal]

Interesting...it seems the "minority" isn't so minor anymore.... I see a thread every 2-three days like this, each from a different user...so much for that "shoot down tactic" you've been using to disregard these threads..:P

[Zerich]

Different sock puppets making different threads about the same gripe.

[TybudX]

There are lots of us! We should form a club, where we can get together and talk about how much better we are than people with more high level jobs than us because we take the time to learn our jobs the old fashioned way! A Linkshell even, and then we can go line up SAs and have PLD tanks and wait three minutes for TP so our BLM can MB every single fight!

But then I guess we'd have no reason to announce to the world how much our anger is seething inside of us. I don't want to enjoy the game if other people aren't being unfairly forced to play at my incredibly slow and mind numbing pace.

[Trisscar]

Interesting...it seems the "minority" isn't so minor anymore.... I see a thread every 2-three days like this, each from a different user...so much for that "shoot down tactic" you've been using to disregard these threads..:P

Are we supposed to be fooled by all you sock puppets?

[Luvbunny]

I mean damn, people are always saying how GoV and Abyssea's exp system is ruining the game, thats BS, than how about bone parties with MNK's way back in the day? Or Colibri parties to get those merits? They were fast means of exp that eliminated past methods entirely, yet nobody b*tched than other than the real old school players. So to say that this system is "broken" is to be ignorant of what FFXI is, because if you think its a 1 year grind to 75 killing easy prey mobs solo or teaming up with 6 people killing maybe 150 exp a mob parties.... Than you are dead wrong.

The old school party system was bitched to oblivion back in the days, it was horrendous, horrible and elitist. First the all warrior, ranger, monk, blm exclusive club, then came ToAU that gave us even more faster way to level that was a big massive complaints among the old schooler before ToAU, which brought us the death of Black Mages in party and the rise of every other melee DD + RDM + BRD + COR combo. So to have all these so called "old schooler" getting nostalgic is a tad ridiculous. But overall I agree with your post. Here are something people need to understand, basic human nature:

- People will always take shortcut over chore, leveling to 99 is a big massive useless chore.
- People then do not want to take time to master the job they just lvld fast to 99 because that is another chore.
- Most people are way too lazy to open up FFXI Wiki and read up information on their jobs, or use FFXI AH for more information on how to set up gears and spells etc....
- In general SE do very little to help with skilling up, and most abynoobieboobies do almost nothing to skill ups either, laziness and ignorance comes first.
- People do not learn how to work in small party set up, which is great if you can make it work but horrible if you have a bunch of people who have no clue how the dynamic works. Plus some people got offended if they are being told what to do...
- There are a lot of jobs that require you actually spend time on your own figuring out after you hit 99, blue mage comes to mind, one of the most complex jobs, as well as puppet master. Abyssea is there to give you advantage in battle, with mix and match atmas to suit your need vs mob, but people just do not want to figure it out.... reading problem..

[Krystal]

Are we supposed to be fooled by all you sock puppets?

oh! So that's the new fail tactic your using now to disregard the overflowing amount of threads...simply amazing how much people will go to great lengths to try and ignore something...

[Trisscar]

oh! So that's the new fail tactic your using now to disregard the overflowing amount of threads...simply amazing how much people will go to great lengths to try and ignore something...

How is it a fail? You are a sock puppet. You attempt to make it look like your position is shared by more people than what it actually is by spamming the same stupid shit time after time under a plethora of different accounts.

Do you honestly think we're as stupid as to buy into it?