Up the lvl to enter abyssea to 70 PLEASE

[FrankReynolds]

It was back when blu was first release. It had been out for maybe 6 weeks.

[Kagetachi]

started playing in 2002 im capped on all, im saying that its too easy for people now 1-99 in aday come on. all im asking for is SE to show peoples stats in there bio to rid ptys of under skilled players

so your on a Japanese account then?
and TA worked totally differently back in 2002.

[Kagetachi]

Hmm, maybe it was on the test server then.

The test server came out after all of Abyssea was released

[Kagetachi]

this game was out b4 wiki... so we old school vets had to learn the hard way. Now a days its pretty much ever question is met with "look up wiki". kinda shitty tbh but o well.

also personal experience in some cases beats reading and mimicing...

much like ppl coulda figured out the /fume trick just by messing around....

now a days ppl just read wiki vs experiment.

um actually, there were information sites out long before this game came to NA. overall, the wiki was just a reposting of those sites.
mysterytour, seems to have gone offline long ago
somepage.com is still active and predated the wiki.
there are also countless JP sites that have been around for a long time

[Spiritreaver]

dont think most people dont understand. we just want the challenge like the way it was back in the old school pt.....

You said other stuff, but i stopped right there. And i think i DO understand. EXP flows like wine at a frat-house now...but it didn't for you and yours? sheesh...

You like challenges, how about this-would you consider the following having been a challenge?

Back in the day when i was lvling my THF(which was 'subjob only' to most), i had all of 2 parties from 61-75. Had to to get the vast majority of that exp from killing EP mobs. There was no such thing as exp rings or fov/gov pages of burns of any kind and there had been no adjustment to boost exp. Come home from work, spend hours flag up, killing EPs. For months. Even my LS at the time wouldn't invite me to exp...

Well? What do you think? Did i get good at the mechanics of THF during the obscene amount of time it took me to get THF 75? You bet i did. Was it a challenge? I surely think it was. Since i did it that way, it should be good enough for everyone else too right? Way wrong.

FFXI isn't brain surgery. All the jobs are variations on a theme and fall into DD, healer, buffer, or tank; or some mixture thereof. Having it take a rl year to reach max lvl cap was a challenge, but it wasn't an ideal one then and an even worse one now. Took forever but eventually even SE saw that and took steps to ease lvling.

There were gimps(lots of them) in '04 when i started and i've actually seen the number of just piss-poor players go down as time has progressed. If ppl having it easier than you did irks you...tough, that's life. My remaining grandparent was born in 1929 and i've never seen her once whine about all of us ingrates goin' about willy-nilly in our horseless wagons. Nope, not once and she was married with kids before she ever even saw a car in person.


My advice: worry about yourself ingame. Play the game to the lvl of excellence you feel is appropriate to challenge yourself and let the next guy worry about challenging him or herself, or not as the case may be. You'll enjoy the game tons more. If i hadn't adopted this outlook ways back, i don't think i would have lasted a year in FFXI.

[Rosina]

do ppl not know how to play an rpg anymore >.>

man this internet age is bugging the crap out me.

for all the trolls in here, you guys are full of stupidity. First off exp was raised outside abyssea. so it don't take long to lvl in 6man. With ring you can get 800+ exp chains after only 5 min of fighting.

Learning your class is done by DOING not reading. All you do is read or mimic

O btw just to clarafy... Troll post: a post made by a troll that does nothing but insult a poster or posters, does nothing to contribute to the topic.

trolls on this forums : Zerich and cidbahamut for starters. All theit posts seem to just berate other posters. And do nothing but this.

I seen more bad players then good on this game since leeching happen. Again more to this game then lvling and end game. Being good at the game is also knowing the lore, knowing the quests , knowing what to do and not to do.

I bet no know here knows of a quest line about a elvaan soldier ordelles cave and a time staff.

[Rosina]

um actually, there were information sites out long before this game came to NA. overall, the wiki was just a reposting of those sites.
mysterytour, seems to have gone offline long ago
somepage.com is still active and predated the wiki.
there are also countless JP sites that have been around for a long time

which didn't get too much referal in game. All i said was one stop info center. Barely anyone on garuda or lakshni made mention of those.... typically my question would be answered not "go to wiki"

[Arcon]

do ppl not know how to play an rpg anymore >.>

Who are you to tell me how to play? There is no one way to play it. Stop being a fascist about this.

As to your other points:
- A troll is someone who posts with the intention of illiciting flame.
- EXP still sucks outside. 800 chains are nothing compared to Abyssea and the ring burns out in no time.
- If you need use it fifty times to realize that Provoke pulls hate, when you could as well have read about it, you're stupid.
- Knowing the lore is knowing about the game, not being good (or bad) at it. Case in point, I know about those and I'm still a good player.

[Slaxx]

Rosina, I would guess I've been playing RPGs (both pen & paper and computer/console) since before you were born. I assure you I know how to play RPGs. Part of that extensive experience is in finding time efficient ways to level. You yourself have said that you've started 70 characters (I believe that was the number) over the years. You obviously enjoy leveling and have no problem doing it in a slower manner than I do, and that's fine. But your crusade against speed leveling (not everyone leeches) is beyond tiresome.

The sad thing is from your statements here I would bet that my level 30 job keying chests contributes far more than whatever level 99 job you may bring to the table. And guess what? Once I get that job to 99 I won't bring it to anything until I've properly skilled and equipped it.

Right now I have 10 jobs at 99 and I'll probably have 3 more in the next 2 weeks.

Right now I will take one out for general use and a second (THF) out if my LS is trying to raise TH value and my other job isn't needed.

Right now the rest of my jobs are in various states of skill/gear. When they get to a level that I find acceptable I will make them available to my LS for events. When I feel comfortable with my knowledge of the job (from various online resources and direct experience) then I will use it in general.

[Lynchilles]

um actually, there were information sites out long before this game came to NA. overall, the wiki was just a reposting of those sites.
mysterytour, seems to have gone offline long ago
somepage.com is still active and predated the wiki.
there are also countless JP sites that have been around for a long time

Wow that brings me back. Somepage.com & Mysterytour were the places to go for maps.

I bet no know here knows of a quest line about a elvaan soldier ordelles cave and a time staff.

There you go again. Making sweeping generalizations. I know about that quest because it was one of the first "major" quests I did since I am an Elvaan from San D'Oria. Every now and again, when I'm back in Sandy, I'll change my title to "Obsidian Storm" just for kicks and because it reminds me of that obscure quest.

You keep throwing around the word "troll" but honestly I think you need to look in the mirror. You are making absurd claims based on anecdotal evidence (i.e. "I see more bad players around now after Abyssea was released then there was before). This is not factual evidence in support of your conclusion. That is you presenting a myopic experience, running it through the filter of inductive reasoning, and using it to support a faulty argument.

You need to just stop posting already.