Up the lvl to enter abyssea to 70 PLEASE

[nyheen]

You want challenge? Go do Legion!! Please don't be lazy and do a lot of legion and all these so called neo anything without hacking. That should give you plenty of challenge, while you are at it try to get your shiny weapon and armors, should be challenge enough for you. Leveling to 99 should not be a challenge or grind. The game has evolved since 2010, get with the program dude, or find those delusional people who still yearn for the good old days and make your own old school anything with them. I am sure you can find 5 other like minded persons for that. OPTIONS are the new deal now, fast, convenience and fun. Now that the unmentionable is properly resigned, hopefully the future will be bright and a whole lot more fun activities similar to abyssea crack.

talking about low/mid lvl. all of that stuff is endgame but ya they do give a great challenge if people would stop cheating on it

[Luvbunny]

talking about low/mid lvl. all of that stuff is endgame but ya they do give a great challenge if people would stop cheating on it

Game has changed, there is no longer low and mid level challenge unless you want to do bcnm battle or just level synch and do FoV old school party (can also do GoV old school party). There is also moblin maze maker if you want another variety of fun with level synch or assault with a level synch. The bottom line is this, people value their time, they want to get rewarded with something they can use, since low level and mid level barely exits - interests are almost non existent to do those things because the gears are outdated very quickly. Bcnms and Assaults are still valid since they have other drops/incentive that are valid for end game (ninja scroll, assault point for salvage). This upcoming update with the Heroines BCNM should give you some fun to do.

[SpankWustler]

dont think most people dont understand. we just want the challenge like the way it was back in the old school pt. we not talking about going back too 150-200 exp a kill on IT mobs. but the kinda fun we had in the old days of exping.

The only challenges I remember from those days were ones imposed on me by really horrible people I was stuck in a party with.

The White Mage who preferred to Silence bats rather than cast spells such as Cure III and Haste and Dia II. Actually, I met two of these within a week. My friend suggested they were each-others' Adventuring Fellows and thus blameless for their bad AI.

Legions of people who were seemingly allergic to all food items. A gazillion dumb hippies who think they have Celiac Disease existed in Vana'diel before the modern world, apparently.

A thousand healers who wandered away from their computers for a thousand years each. This a hyperbole, obviously, but I like that it sounds more like an ancient proverb this way.

The Red Mage who cast En-Aero and engaged a Puk. After an hour, someone else finally noticed this and found it less amusing than myself. Several strangely racist insults later, he began casting the en-spell for the current Vana'diel day instead. For the first time in my life, I read the label on a bottle of cologne to find out if drinking it would blind me.

Unfortunately, it did not. I met the thousand-and-first wandering healer the next day. Damn my eyes.

I'll admit that sometimes the parties with no one like the individuals mentioned above could be fun if somebody I liked to talk to was around, but usually, it just felt efficient because nobody was doing anything stupid. A lot like working on an assembly line in a solid workplace.

There's nothing wrong with liking that kind of thing, but it's not right to equate being present at a keyboard to poke at some buttons now and again with challenge. Not that there are many challenging activities in Final Fantasy XI, but fighting your ten-thousandth bat or crab is really the most mindless thing possible.

Coincidentally, meeting people like that is the main reason I am very happy it is possible to streamline leveling up now.

[Rosina]

If I want to learn something about a job (like for example how SA/TA work) I just grab a friend or two (or even solo), go out to an area with some EP mobs, and mess around with the mechanics and gear to understand it better. If I need more help, I'll read up on it in a wiki.

I don't see why it is necessary for me to learn these things in an 6-man non-Abyssea experience points party somewhere between level 30 and 70.

To reiterate: there will always be unskilled/gimps whether the level cap for Abyssea is 30 or if its 70+

this game was out b4 wiki... so we old school vets had to learn the hard way. Now a days its pretty much ever question is met with "look up wiki". kinda shitty tbh but o well.

also personal experience in some cases beats reading and mimicing...

much like ppl coulda figured out the /fume trick just by messing around....

now a days ppl just read wiki vs experiment.

[Rosina]

some people just really want to smack crabs for hours on end...let them.

you do realise this opinion is contradictory cuz all ppl do is kill (or leech) skeleton for hours on end. then kill crawlers and bees for hours on end, then skill worms/bluffolo/dolls hours on end.

6man you killed worms mandies crabs lizards fish giga crawlers, crawler who spit fire, imps, flies.

you infactr barely fought crabs unless u was ina skill up party...

all ppl do is exp in 2 caves and 1 of 3 aby zones. tbh book burning dull compared to 6 man where every 10 lvls you was somplace different.

[Komori]

you do realise this opinion is contradictory cuz all ppl do is kill (or leech) skeleton for hours on end. then kill crawlers and bees for hours on end, then skill worms/bluffolo/dolls hours on end.

6man you killed worms mandies crabs lizards fish giga crawlers, crawler who spit fire, imps, flies.

you infactr barely fought crabs unless u was ina skill up party...

all ppl do is exp in 2 caves and 1 of 3 aby zones. tbh book burning dull compared to 6 man where every 10 lvls you was somplace different.

Are you joking? You encountered Dunes Crabs, Qufim Crabs, Kuftal, Boyahda and probably more than that.

I just can't recall them off the top of my head, and since old-school leveling took forever, that was weeks to a month or so for each stage of ten levels in each of those zones. Screw you, it was only crabs, birds and mandies for levels until imps.

[Meyi]

Do you really think upping the limit will keep leeches out of Abyssea? AHAHAH! Please. At least keyers at level 30 help contribute to the party.

Protip: unless you're maxed or almost maxed on your gear, atmas, skills, and merits, you're a leech.

[Lynchilles]

this game was out b4 wiki... so we old school vets had to learn the hard way. Now a days its pretty much ever question is met with "look up wiki". kinda shitty tbh but o well.

also personal experience in some cases beats reading and mimicing...

much like ppl coulda figured out the /fume trick just by messing around....

now a days ppl just read wiki vs experiment.

How do you make such broad sweeping generalizations with zero support?

Also, how does "testing job abilities/weaponskills out for oneself" not equate to "personal experience"?

I understand how people learned jobs back in the "old school" because I did it to. However the game has changed. Why must someone only learn how to play their job the "old school" way? Why is that better than researching it on their own? looking it up on wiki? asking a friend/mentor via chat? etc. There is now more information available for people to learn how to play a job effectively and this is a good thing rather than an inconvenience.

This thread is effing retarded just like every other thread on the subject. Raising the level cap for Abyssea will do absolutely nothing. People will still find a way to get fast exp with minimal effort (such as book-burning, astral flows, whatever).

To the OP and everyone that agrees with him: Stop force-feeding people the bullsh*t that all players must level in 6-man experience points parties like was done in "old school FFXI" in order to learn how to play their job. It a f*cking absurd argument.

[Vivik]

we old school vets had to learn the hard way.

Rosina, you are the poster child of what not to do in this game.

I cannot believe you keep using the "we vets" shit in here. You are the perfect example of someone that has no clue even though they leveled the old way. I would really hate to see the kind of "advice" you give people.

[hiko]

this game was out b4 wiki... so we old school vets had to learn the hard way. Now a days its pretty much ever question is met with "look up wiki". kinda shitty tbh but o well.

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you haven't learned anything, if you had, you'd swap gear.