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    Player Lynchilles's Avatar
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    If I want to learn something about a job (like for example how SA/TA work) I just grab a friend or two (or even solo), go out to an area with some EP mobs, and mess around with the mechanics and gear to understand it better. If I need more help, I'll read up on it in a wiki.

    I don't see why it is necessary for me to learn these things in an 6-man non-Abyssea experience points party somewhere between level 30 and 70.

    To reiterate: there will always be unskilled/gimps whether the level cap for Abyssea is 30 or if its 70+
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  2. #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by wish12oz View Post
    ^Well put.

    People seriously need to get over Abyssea. If anything is done to it then it should be something to improve it, not make it worse. Having level 30's in Abyssea does not prevent people from being gimp nor does it really do much otherwise. Leave the level of entry alone. =_+;;
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  3. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by geekgirl101 View Post
    It must've been higher than 30, because I'm pretty sure the mobs I fought that were originally part of the WotG mission chain that led to the entry requirement for the maws were higher than level 30, unless it was that in order to survive those missions you had to be 75 and then could enter Abyssea with any 30+ job. Either that or the guy who told me there was a level 75 entry cap and that you had to be on the cat sith mission to be able to start the missions to enter Aby was talking out of his backside.
    troll poster is a troll

    but this is a troll thread, so...

    (btw, what's a western american?)
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    Last edited by Zerich; 07-18-2012 at 04:47 AM.

  4. #44
    Player FrankReynolds's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zerich View Post
    troll poster is a troll

    but this is a troll thread, so...

    (btw, what's a western american?)
    Someone from California? Who knows.


    I Vote that they create a script that automatically deletes any thread / post relating to Abyssea Level caps.

    There is a huge problem with this line of thinking anyways:

    Anyone who thinks that you need to spend large amounts of time leveling a job in order to get your skills up, or learn to play your job, is clearly someone who doesn't level their skills (if they did, they would know how easy it is) and / or has a learning disability (you can learn almost everything from wikis) that keeps them from quickly grasping game mechanics. Which means that they are probably someone who you would not want to spend large amounts of time in a six man party with (or any other event for that matter). The irony being that the people who want to get rid of abyssea xp are most likely the people who made six man parties suck so bad that most people never want to do them again.

    OP is his own worst enemy.
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    Last edited by FrankReynolds; 07-18-2012 at 05:12 AM.

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    Pandora's Box....all that needs to be said about it. And if you don't understand that.../facepalm.

    As for the whole bit about WotG requirements for abyssea access....that wasn't any gameplay requirement, it was an INSTALLATION requirement. You had to have the expansion installed so the game could recycle it's assets. Sometimes I wonder if people even RTFM, or at least the requirements notice (like all those that claim their fairly currnt PC can't run FFXI).
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  6. #46
    Player Xantavia's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trisscar View Post
    I'm still waiting for the GOD adherents to explain how this was more preferable to current party system.
    I don't think anybody is asking for the lower xp rates or long invite rates (which I never experienced, even though blu was my first 75). What I liked was the sense of working together as a group to take down a mob. Now, it feels like a bunch of people soloing who just happen to be in the same party. You used to be expected to be a contributing member to the success, and if you were discovered to be AFK for too long, you got the boot.

    Just for a minute forget about the amount of xp you got then or now. Do you (generic you, not directed at Trisscar specifically) think one method was more fun than the other?
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  7. #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zerich View Post
    btw, what's a western american?
    Someone who lives in PST as opposed to someone who lives in EST.

    btw why do people say that these posts are "troll posts"? Isn't is obvious that a fair number of people prefer the old system because it made them feel useful and that this sitting in Aby all day having someone kill mobs for you isn't "playing the game"? When my husband started playing again last year he cancelled his account because he said and I quote "it isn't a game anymore, I don't get to play my role because the mobs die before I can attack, where is the fun in having someone else level for you?" I would really like the old system back, but I'd like it to have some major changes to it so it's not a horrendous grind the higher the level you go and doesn't take all day to find people to team up with.
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    Last edited by geekgirl101; 07-18-2012 at 09:35 AM.

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    I fully support this so long as they come up with a fun and interesting way to level up to 70. Too many of the cool exp options are weighted towards the later levels. FoV and GoV are a basic idea and it can last a little way, but its still not interesting, especially when you have 20 jobs to get to level 99.
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    Player Luvbunny's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by geekgirl101 View Post
    I would really like the old system back, but I'd like it to have some major changes to it so it's not a horrendous grind the higher the level you go and doesn't take all day to find people to team up with.
    The last thing I would like to have is the old system back, NO MORE - GOOD RIDDANCE, I am sorry but grinding for level is NOT FUN or it was ever fun to begin with. I want to do other things, exploring, crafting, missions, bcnms, all the various end game activities, but please no more of these so called level grinding to 99. If you do not know how to play your jobs, then its your own fault for not making an effort to research read and practice. Stop blaming others for leeching etc... This is just a video game, this is not a brain surgery, should not take that long to understand the gameplay mechanic. If you need time to practice, there are various activities that let you just do that. So let's all take instant level to 99 and have fun immediately, not two years later after you created your character.
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