NEO Nyzul 2.0

[Ophannus]

Seeing as I've been doing Neo Nyzul for about 3 months for my LS and we always go with BLU I can attest to each and every one of those being true. BLU damage on DC mobs is outrageous. 2k CDC into 3k CAflux Amorphic into 3k Darkness is just rape against Frogs/Chariots. Dream Flower is amazing on lamp floors where you want to just sleep a cluster of mobs without wasting time to kill them, for SCH to do that they have to switch from Add:White to Addark and then use Manifestation(total loss of 3 strategems, Add:black(1), manifestation(1), changing back to add white(1)) BLU is self sufficient with Sanguine Blade, and Requiescat is really the best for Mousses which Catastrophe/Ukko's Fury does like 800-1kish on but Req does over 2k against. We usually leave the Mousses to the BLU. And cardamom custard, the one NM that can cripple your group's time if not prepared, BLU makes short work of. We go with DRK DRG BLU SCH SCH WAR and though the DRK has Twilight Scythe, it's not enough since his WS is gimp against that NM. The BLU will pop a fanatics(since Amorphic Scythe can do well over 2k and kill the BLU) and spam Requiescats for 4-5k(Cardamom custard has massive resistance (75-80%) against blunt/slashing/piercing but for some reason requiescat/twilight scythe get a damage bonus against it, so you'll see Twilight Scythe hitting for 500-600 and Req hitting for 5kish.

[Arcon]

Care to elaborate which?

Some of the statements were a wee bit over advertised, but all in all Ophannus is correct. BLU is a very useful addition to a Nyzul team. The damage is nowhere near the same as for heavy DDs, but still more than enough for most of the trash mobs along the way. Combine that with its general usefulness and the overall lower impact of kill speed in the event itself (as most of the time sinks are not kill speed but running) and BLU is a very useful job for it. I've done all my successful runs with a BLU, though, so I may be biased in that regard. Then again, that could be taken as a hint towards its usefulness.

[saevel]

I advocate 3 two handers, 2 schs and a BLU. BLU is really useful for the following reasons:

1) With Almace they pull off 2-3k CDCs easy.
2) Dream Flower gears/adds on lamp floors or NMs that might be problematic(Waraxe Beak) without making the SCH have to shift Addendums(annoying/waste of strategem if Enlightenment isn't up)
3) Self SC CDC>Amorphic is like 6-7k burst of damage.
4) CA QC does like 4k
5) BLU can run up to a cluster of mobs and CA/Efflux Whirl of Rage for 2.5k aoe+long stun.
6) Sudden Lunge is like a 12 second stun, amazing for Soulflayers/Chariots
7) Delta Thrust's -10TP/tick plague is amazing for leaders/bosses
8) While other DDs are hitting for 80 and doing 500 dmg ws to Cardamom Custard, BLU can spam 4-5k Requiescats.
9) Can oneshot most trash mobs with a Heavy Strike or a few swings+Delta Thrust.
10) Winds of Promyvion is indispensable, 2 second cast AoE Erase for almost no MP, saves the SCH strategems. Amazing for removing Soulflayer's Bio or Chariot's Bindga.

Although his numbers are a bit overblown, in general these are valid reasons.

BLU/WAR with

DW III
5% TA
MAB I (Dream Flower + 1 pt)
Store TP
Auto Refresh (WoP + A.Burst)
Store TP I (SL + 1 pt)
Self Haste / Refresh and M.Fruit set (all emergency use spells)

Then all the goodies from /WAR and some Bison Steak. Makes for a powerful DD on trash mobs and a good DD on the boss's. BLU's strength is that it destroys trash mobs and can on demand put out extremely high spike damage, though at the expensive of blowing their MP. That spike damage has saved us on "WS Restricted" floors and on really stupid enemy leaders / boss's. SL's stun effect lasts a ridiculous amount of time and makes many NM's much easier to deal with.

Another interesting note is Diffusion Haste during initial embrava. Regardless of what the blowhards like to say, putting up haste is a PITA for SCH's, the spell has a long cast / recast and melees do not stand still. I found that doing an aoe diffusion wail when their doing their embrava allows everyone to immediately take off. Let the SCH's know when it's got 1min left and they'll start cycling Perp haste regularly on our four members without needing to blow a ton of stratagems for cast / recast down. It's really just a time saver. 6 Min aoe haste at 5/5, 7:15 aoe haste at 5/5 with augmented relic feet. Cast nearly instantly and during the time when everyone is together and the SCH is doing embrava.

[saevel]

The damage is nowhere near the same as for heavy DDs, but still more than enough for most of the trash mobs along the way.

I can argue against that. On anything T or less a BLU/WAR with CDC will hang with the big guys. Its only on VT+ when they leave the BLU behind. Seeing as NNI is populated almost entirely with DC mobs, that puts BLU near the big guns for most of the run, with the heavy guys blowing the boss's apart.

Of course this assumes your BLU's actually know what their doing and have decent gear sets.

[Kitkat]

Have to back the utility of blu also (and the fact that it was slightly overblown in output, but not laughably so). Where a Restricted WS floor will leave your 2handers at a disadvantage the blu (well geared and appropriate swapping of gear) will fill in for the lack of damage at the cost of mp, which they can then regain on other floors or by use of temp item should they get any at start. Most mobs are easily considered "trash mobs" due to conning DC with very few giving much of any trouble, but I would suggest you be sure the person playing the blu knows what is expected and is geared for it first.

[Stan64]

Platinum astrarium won't stack. Learned it the hard way!

[Demon6324236]

Platinum astrarium won't stack. Learned it the hard way!

...wow, that sucks >< lesson learned I guess.

[wish12oz]

Bumping this thread to say that I started doing Neo Nyzul for my mage mule, and to put my money where my mouth is I even live streamed it and recorded it. So now I have this awesome video from last night saved on my PC where I won 2 of the 3 runs we did without cheating. So now the question is: Will Pchan pay up? Do I need to do anything else? There were other people watching as I did it. Do I need to find an editing program and crop out like 6 hours of video so I can have the 3 nyzul runs together, then speeding them up so I can post them to youtube? (youtube has a 10 min video length max unless your videos get tons of views or something) So how about it Pchan? Wheres my marrows? Am I getting 10 instead of 5 since I won 2 in a row also?

My mage mule has also officially been inside neo nyzul 8 times now and won 3 times. But I dont really count 2 of those losses since they weren't with the people I normally go with.

[MarkovChain]

I don't see no video, also since the thread is bumped I encourage anyone to rate up nyzul related suggestion in the dev thread. Like on the first page, there is mdkuser's suggestion that has gotten 120 "likes" which is one of the most (+1) in the thread.

rate up this post : http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...l=1#post352780

I want 16 macro lines

I want some progression system for nyzul isle instead . Remove lamps all together and "penalities" for gear aggro

[wish12oz]

I don't see no video, also since the thread is bumped I encourage anyone to rate up nyzul related suggestion in the dev thread. Like on the first page, there is mdkuser's suggestion that has gotten 120 "likes" which is one of the most (+1) in the thread.

rate up this post : http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...l=1#post352780

You should of been watching my live stream, but you're saying you will give me 5 marrows after I upload the video?

EDIT, tell you what, I can stream the video right now for you if you want to watch it =3