Bring back Long spawn/Rare WORLD HNM but put drops in legion/einherjar/other bc also

[mikeh]

you do realise ur are making urself look guilty by bringing in a petty fight about something that has nothing to do with said accusation..
if u guys are free of guilt.... act like it.. not pull out the bully card.

if ur soo innocent avt like it... so far your proving otherwise. ur trying to change the subject.

I'm making myself look guilty by calling out bare faced liars? Ok Tim, whatever you say!

As for trying to change the subject... I'm bored and i guess this will amuse me for a bit, maybe?

[Aldersyde]

The OP specifically came up with an idea, that both group, enjoy the content or not, gets same reward. Nobody put a gun on your head and ask you to do the content you don't enjoy, just pick the content you enjoy and avoid the one you don't enjoy, do you have to eliminate everyone that has different opinion as you?

One reason I don't support the dual-method approach to the same reward is because SE can't pull it off. If they implemented a system that utilized a ??? and a low-drop rate pop item, then it might be acceptable. However, we all know that SE will design a convoluted, time sink method where it will take weeks or months to even get to the mob you want to fight. Meanwhile, anyone willing to bot the new mobs (because we all know that's what's going to happen) will be able to fight and get rewards instantly. So you just get SE rewarding AFK and automated play again (because SE won't/can't get rid of the botters), which in other facets of the game, SE tells us is bad.

And unless SE implements some kind of restriction that people participating in one type of content can't participate in the other (which I can't see them doing), one side will get two ways to get the new items. It's not like the people wanting the HNM system will not use the other event to get what they want faster. People who were doing HNM kings also did Odin on a regular basis. So really, in essence, there's no compromise in the OP at all. One side is clearly advantaged over the other People who want to be on equal footing will have to do both events, no matter how boring/frustrating/repugnant they are.

[Hercule]

Honestly I don't get it.

It is obviously that for some group of ppl, they enjoy HNM, and just let them enjoy what they want. YOU think it's not entertaining, ok fine, everyone should respect your opinion. But that doesn't mean everyone else should think the same as you do.

But your reply is what really makes the community looked bad. "If you enjoy what I don't enjoy, you make me looked bad, and what you said are considered spam". So other players are not allowed to enjoy what you don't enjoy? If someone enjoy logging on for 3hr and semi-afk while watching TV, let them do what they want and have fun, is that a big crime?

The OP specifically came up with an idea, that both group, enjoy the content or not, gets same reward. Nobody put a gun on your head and ask you to do the content you don't enjoy, just pick the content you enjoy and avoid the one you don't enjoy, do you have to eliminate everyone that has different opinion as you?

Either way, I support OPs idea. This game should be more diverse, and satisfy every different kind of player, instead of catering toward only one group of ppl.

300% approve

[Tunasushi]

One reason I don't support the dual-method approach to the same reward is because SE can't pull it off. If they implemented a system that utilized a ??? and a low-drop rate pop item, then it might be acceptable. However, we all know that SE will design a convoluted, time sink method where it will take weeks or months to even get to the mob you want to fight. Meanwhile, anyone willing to bot the new mobs (because we all know that's what's going to happen) will be able to fight and get rewards instantly. So you just get SE rewarding AFK and automated play again (because SE won't/can't get rid of the botters), which in other facets of the game, SE tells us is bad.

And unless SE implements some kind of restriction that people participating in one type of content can't participate in the other (which I can't see them doing), one side will get two ways to get the new items. It's not like the people wanting the HNM system will not use the other event to get what they want faster. People who were doing HNM kings also did Odin on a regular basis. So really, in essence, there's no compromise in the OP at all. One side is clearly advantaged over the other People who want to be on equal footing will have to do both events, no matter how boring/frustrating/repugnant they are.

I think most who actually did einherjar and HNM will agree, you are SERIOUSLY, INCREDIBLY DELUSIONAL, if you honestly think MOST people obtained ebody FASTER doing nidhogg than they did doing einherjar. I'm okay with opinion, which is why i've stayed out of this, but this is just bs.

Waiting ONE WEEK for HQ king, that you have to compete for, odds are low you will claim everytime, is not much different than waiting 3 days for einherjar and doing odin every 2 weeks 100%, which was easier for most groups. Both are artificial time sinks, but claiming nidhogg is probably easier than wiping in einherjar. The average shell claimed nidhogg once every 2-3 weeks. Above Average einherjar group did odin every 2 weeks.




Seriously, stop posting. You're delusional.

[FrankReynolds]

I think most who actually did einherjar and HNM will agree, you are SERIOUSLY, INCREDIBLY DELUSIONAL, if you honestly think MOST people obtained ebody FASTER doing nidhogg than they did doing einherjar. I'm okay with opinion, which is why i've stayed out of this, but this is just bs.

Waiting ONE WEEK for HQ king, that you have to compete for, odds are low you will claim everytime, is not much different than waiting 3 days for einherjar and doing odin every 2 weeks 100%, which was easier for most groups. Both are artificial time sinks, but claiming nidhogg is probably easier than wiping in einherjar. The average shell claimed nidhogg once every 2-3 weeks. Above Average einherjar group did odin every 2 weeks.




Seriously, stop posting. You're delusional.

People who did Einherjar AND Nidhogg definitely got e.body faster than people who only did einherjar.

Advantage goes to the botter.

[Trisscar]

I think most who actually did einherjar and HNM will agree, you are SERIOUSLY, INCREDIBLY DELUSIONAL, if you honestly think MOST people obtained ebody FASTER doing nidhogg than they did doing einherjar. I'm okay with opinion, which is why i've stayed out of this, but this is just bs.

Waiting ONE WEEK for HQ king, that you have to compete for, odds are low you will claim everytime, is not much different than waiting 3 days for einherjar and doing odin every 2 weeks 100%, which was easier for most groups. Both are artificial time sinks, but claiming nidhogg is probably easier than wiping in einherjar. The average shell claimed nidhogg once every 2-3 weeks. Above Average einherjar group did odin every 2 weeks.




Seriously, stop posting. You're delusional.

And you're being intentionally dishonest. You don't care about the camp, the monster, or the gear, you and your ilk just want to claim you're 'better players' than everyone else. At least that taru player has the balls to admit to it.

[Demon6324236]

And you're being intentionally dishonest. You don't care about the camp, the monster, or the gear, you and your ilk just want to claim you're 'better players' than everyone else. At least that taru player has the balls to admit to it.

Don't go insulting people please, creates problems like before, be civil.

[Hercule]

People who did Einherjar AND Nidhogg definitely got e.body faster than people who only did einherjar.

Advantage goes to the botter.

I like to see how every "anti HNM" people speak about "bot", like they really tried all of them and have a serious experience about using them, and know how efficient they are.
I outclaimed plenty of botter with my lolxbox 360 pad and i can tell you a claim bot dont give a lot of more chance to claim than legit players cause SE did the work really well for counter them

[Trisscar]

Don't go insulting people please, creates problems like before, be civil.

If it offends them, then they know it to be true.

[FrankReynolds]

I like to see how every "anti HNM" people speak about "bot", like they really tried all of them and have a serious experience about using them, and know how efficient they are.
I outclaimed plenty of botter with my lolxbox 360 pad and i can tell you a claim bot dont give a lot of more chance to claim than legit players cause SE did the work really well for counter them

So you haven't used them, but you met a really nice bot user who was willing to let you know every time you beat him to the claim so that you could accurately document how well bots work? Lucky you.