No Timed Pop Notorious Monsters In New Expansion

[Trisscar]

What chamber/chambers and what's your setup?

Tier 1 chambers (we're trying to get a better feel for it before committing to higher tiers). Last time we went it was the land kings (Behemoth/Adamantoise/Wyrm) chamber. Three Paladins (with one kitting Adamantoise) and the rest mages, mainly Summoner and Black Mage, mana burning it with a couple support mages to assist the tanks (I was on White Mage, assisting the kite), full alliance. We go in, kill it from Behemoth, to Wyrm, to Adamantoise.

It starts out okay, but it gets hairy towards the middle. It doesn't get any better from there. So far we have had only one victory in this chamber.

As for the other two chambers I haven't been on for them but from what I have gathered it has not gone much better. Le sigh, and here I was hoping for an opportunity to learn Tourbillion. Just as well I suppose, the Khimeria probably doesn't even use it knowing my luck.

[Habu]

Hall of Muru:
Wave 1: Sandworm (CS) > Ixion (PD) > Amph
Wave 2: Sandworm (PD) > Ixion (PD) > Amph (PD)
Wave 3: Iron Giant (PD) >

for this can switch out anything for a RDm for CS

Hall of Ki:
Wave 1: Hydra > Cerb > Khim (PD)
Wave 2: Hydra (PD) > Cerb > Khim (PD)
Wave 3: Mantis (PD) >

Ideal Setup:
DDx5 WHM
SMN x5 COR
PLD SCH THF BRD CORx2 (1 COR + BRD rotated into main DD party)

Hall of An:
Wave 1: Behe + Ada (BLMs on Ada) > Jorm
Wave 2: Zilant (PD) > Behe (PD) > Tortoise (BLMs on from start probably)
Wave 3: Harpy (PD) >

Ideal setup: DDx3 WHM COR BRD
SMN x3 BLM x2 DD x1
PLD x2 WHM SCH RNG BLM x1

[Trisscar]

Hall of Muru:
Wave 1: Sandworm (CS) > Ixion (PD) > Amph
Wave 2: Sandworm (PD) > Ixion (PD) > Amph (PD)
Wave 3: Iron Giant (PD) >

for this can switch out anything for a RDm for CS

Hall of Ki:
Wave 1: Hydra > Cerb > Khim (PD)
Wave 2: Hydra (PD) > Cerb > Khim (PD)
Wave 3: Mantis (PD) >

Ideal Setup:
DDx5 WHM
SMN x5 COR
PLD SCH THF BRD CORx2 (1 COR + BRD rotated into main DD party)

Hall of An:
Wave 1: Behe + Ada (BLMs on Ada) > Jorm
Wave 2: Zilant (PD) > Behe (PD) > Tortoise (BLMs on from start probably)
Wave 3: Harpy (PD) >

Ideal setup: DDx3 WHM COR BRD
SMN x3 BLM x2 DD x1
PLD x2 WHM SCH RNG BLM x1

I see. Do you know of any place where I can read a more in depth and clarified strategy for these halls? My google search didn't turn up anything useful except that the low tiers are easier low man than full alliance.

Thanks in advance.

[Habu]

http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/108...and-strategies

is all I really know of. I know it's a long thread but most likely anything you need to know is in there.

[Trisscar]

Thanks. Hopefully I'll find what I'm looking for in that mess. If nothing else it gives kill orders (just by looking at the last two pages).

[Habu]

Other chambers:

Hall of Im:
Wave 1: Corse (PD) > Vampyr > Dvergr
Wave 2: Vampyr (PD) > Corse (PD) > Dvergr
Wave 3: Naraka (PD) >

Hall of Mul:
Wave 1: Mantis (PD) > Harpy > IG (PD) > Naraka (PD)
Wave 2: IG (PD) > Naraka (PD) > Harpy (PD) > Mantis (PD)
Wave 3: Ig-Alima (PD) >

Ideal Setup:
DDx5 WHM
SMN x5 COR
PLD SCH THF BRD CORx2 (1 COR + BRD rotated into main DD party)

[Trisscar]

What does PD mean in your examples? That those mobs have Perfect Deffense or that it's reconmended to have Perfect Deffense for them? If the latter why do you have instances of two to three PD reconmended but only one Paladin for ideal setup?

[Habu]

It means you use Perfect Defense for those mobs. In most cases a PLD(Aegis)+WHM can hold the other two mobs while DDs zerg down the third. This is true except for Mul where the PLD kites the mobs not being fought.

[Trisscar]

It means you use Perfect Defense for those mobs. In most cases a PLD(Aegis)+WHM can hold the other two mobs while DDs zerg down the third. This is true except for Mul where the PLD kites the mobs not being fought.

So you have one super tank occupy two mobs while the third gets ganked? No wonder why our strategy was no more than spinning our wheels.

[Nala]

Hi, my name is Kaerin, and Im a casual, and I hate world spawns, and I hate bots.

Today the LS I'm second in charge of did the final chamber in Legion, for the first time, our 5th run ever, and 75% of the LS is new, and we timed out right after Botulus and Ig spawned. Very few people have managed to defeat either of these mobs yet, and we would of killed one of them, if the ironclad didnt screw us over and kill our embrava mule so we didnt have that buff for the last mob in wave 2 or any of wave 3. I'm 15/15 on neo-nyzul gear, and I'm sure I finished this event before you. I'm responsible for creating the current 'best WAR TP set,' and I was probably the first person to have it, second at worst. Back in 2004/5/6 my LS was #1 on the BG Big Kills list, and I've always been better at this game than crap tier players who need to rely on bots and bad spawn mechanics to win at FFXI. Your attempt to degrade my opinion by calling everyone who is against world spawns a noob was a good try, but the truth is that I'm better than you at this game and I always have been.

Heh, though i usually agree with your opinions i've always thought you were overwhelmingly rude (without meaning to insult) however i wish i could like this statement an infinite amount of times.