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    Arch-Omega/Ultima Armor

    This is a post mostly directed at someone from the community team to possibly refer to the dev team, but I'm also looking for ideas from other players.

    A group from my linkshell just defeated Arch-Omega today and received a couple of his parts (foreleg and tail). The person who got the tail was after the Enif Gambieras, went over to Wilhelm in Mhaura and traded him his old dusted-off Homam Gambieras along with the Arch-Omega Tail, and, as expected, was rewarded with a shiny new pair of Enif Gambieras. Straightforward enough, as the Enif set is a pretty obvious direct upgrade of the Homam set (likewise for Nashira/Adhara).

    Then, the person who got the foreleg from Arch-Omega went over to Wilhelm, interested in getting himself a pair of Murzim Manopolas - the new set with a few different jobs and different stats. He traded the Arch-Omega Foreleg alone to Wilhelm and received an extremely cryptic message indicating that it would have to be traded with another item acquired from Limbus. The message was something to the effect of... trade that to me with "other curious materials" that come from Limbus to be rewarded. I'm all for puzzles, but I'm not for puzzles when they involve sacrificing rare/ex items that can only be obtained once every few days at most. For example, one thought we had was that we would have to trade Omega's Foreleg along with Arch Omega's Foreleg to receive the Murzim. This could possibly work, but if it doesn't, we wouldn't be surprised if Wilhelm takes Omega's Foreleg, works his magic, and spits out a pair of Homam Manopolas (along with returning the Arch-Omega's Foreleg), wasting at least 3 days in the process, assuming we can split up enough to farm all the chips and kill Omega in the same day (AND be lucky enough to get the Foreleg).

    If someone from the community or dev team can respond, can you either clarify this or possibly give some guidance as to whether we are thinking in the right direction?

    Other players - any idea? We tried other random Limbus drops like ancient beastcoins and AF+1 materials to no avail. Really the only theory we have at this point is old Omega part + new Omega part.


    tl;dr - How do we get Murzim from Arch-Omega parts?
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    It's ok all the gear sucks. Might want to try to combine both neo ultima and neo omega drops too.
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    Player Slycer's Avatar
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    Never mind, was figured out by XingCai on BG. In case anyone cares, you need a couple (two) Apollyon AF+1 materials to go along with the Arch-Omega part to get Murzim. Not sure if they have to be specific jobs or whatever, but it is AF+1 materials.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkovChain View Post
    It's ok all the gear sucks. Might want to try to combine both neo ultima and neo omega drops too.
    What a moron, Enif Corazza is epic, and hands/legs are as well. Its a shame they dont have an ignorant filter on here :/ btw MNK is not the best DD, WAR/SAM SAM/WAR all day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Natenn View Post
    What a moron, Enif Corazza is epic, and hands/legs are as well. Its a shame they dont have an ignorant filter on here :/ btw MNK is not the best DD, WAR/SAM SAM/WAR all day.
    dieing a little on the inside but , you really cant call pchan ignorant then proceed to make an ignorant blanket statment right after. War monk nor sam are "best dd", war and monk are solid DD's. Sam is right up there with the rest of the 2handed dmg bonus classes.

    All aside im actually curious if monk is even king of dot dps ( and to clarify i mean pure white numbers / attack rounds) im almost certain NIN would be top in the who hits the fastest in just terms of gear.
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    no fight worth doing lasts long enough for MNK to be king of anything, its a nice DD but any non-gimp WAR and SAM will crush a MNK. And by non gimp i mean played the game before abyssea/has ukon or bravura/doesnt wear subpar gear, only reason ppl bandwagon MNK is because such high HP doesnt require skill to have a whm spam c5. And his train of thought is: MNK cant use any of this stuff? IT ALL SUCKS, and that my friend is pure ignorance. Next please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Natenn View Post
    no fight worth doing lasts long enough for MNK to be king of anything, its a nice DD but any non-gimp WAR and SAM will crush a MNK. And by non gimp i mean played the game before abyssea/has ukon or bravura/doesnt wear subpar gear, only reason ppl bandwagon MNK is because such high HP doesnt require skill to have a whm spam c5. And his train of thought is: MNK cant use any of this stuff? IT ALL SUCKS, and that my friend is pure ignorance. Next please.
    The first bold would imply the only fights you do last under 30secs to about 1mins ish, anything longer and war's DPS drops off slightly while sam's straight plummets. Sam does not have the DPS to maintian WS output / a WS that hits hard enough once buffs get factored in the inability to crit on WS and the reliance on overwhelm for DPS spike means sam needs a mob in 1 spot doing nothing else for 30secs to 1min for its dps to stay up.

    Heres an example from my Prov static,*we have 100% win rate*. The one i have saved fight lasted 3:18 secs from start to finish, i had 175 Attack rounds on monk 158 hits 17misses 90.29% acc , it took a min to find a parse were we actually took a sam who had 53 attack rounds and 51 hits / 2 misses , we had about the same WS dmg avg but the sam dropped 20 shoha's /2 fudo and i dropped 12 VS's his avg was 1900 , mine 2100.

    Pchans bitchyness about an event not having gear for monk or gear he can get with his triple forever alone boxing may make him ignorant , but your view on DPS and hierarchy is also ignorant your over crediting sam under-crediting monk and ignoring Drk's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by isladar View Post
    As far as I'm aware BG has always held the position of "We're not the *** Morality Police". People are welcome to express their opinions about third party programs on this site. However, we will, as stated, ban the *** *** out of someone trying to post links to said programs. And if people want to cry about Stan's guild program then they should probably start boycotting ffxiah. And excel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Natenn View Post
    What a moron, Enif Corazza is epic, and hands/legs are as well. Its a shame they dont have an ignorant filter on here :/ btw MNK is not the best DD, WAR/SAM SAM/WAR all day.
    MNK is the best whatever you do, whm or not. Your other post seems to imply that other jobs than monk don't need whm to get cured - lol.

    Also yeah the entire limbus gear sucks. Not sure why anyone would want to do this unless they are bored. You might want to argue why enif corraza is good cos if I had one I would toss it right away. A quick look at the other enif gear and honestly I don't see anything good. The entire mage gear is bullcrap as always. You can't have a new shiny extension and worthwhile content I guess.
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    MNK is a good DD but it is certainly not the best, you will never beat out a proper WAR or SAM. And Enif Corazza is the best TP piece for PLD thats for sure, probably even most the jobs that can use it. Hands/legs best for flash
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    Best hands legs for flash lolz.
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