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  1. #21
    Player MarkovChain's Avatar
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    People don't do abyssea anymore, this doesn't make sense at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Concerned4FFxi View Post
    There's a few pieces that can be used for a few jobs but on the whole all 4 sets are extremly disappointing.

    I opened up my orginal limbus static, which includes myself, a partner, and my whm mule; to neo-limbus last week. I recruited a sch, brd, and 3 dd's. We cleared neo-omega's basement II for the first time 1/1 last week for his pop ki with 10 minutes to spare.

    Upon recieving 0 drops from all three chests, and a review of the four sets of armour from the neo bosses, I was told that while everyone had fun, that only my partner and one DD will be returning.

    This event was dead the minute it was launched because the gear sucks. In order to get people to do it, the gear has to provide more appeal than just to smn, or pld's. One can't except people to do content that other people are not willing to do because of poor rewards. The homam feet and hands should have been +5 haste, or +4 haste and 15acc or something. The stats are the worst conception in a long time, and NOBODY wants to do the content, so the few nuts like myself that want to are forced out because we can't fill our static to do it because everyone else sees it as junk, which it IS.

    At least neo-einherjar has gear that grants war and other dd -49%damage taken, if they have d-ring and other gear items to complete their damage taken set. What SE was thinking by releasing neo-limbus gear, and postponing it at that, are a big WTF+LOL.
    I agree with most of your post, and can't argue that ~85-90% of the gear is sucky. In our LS, we plan to do the event a few times to help the few people that want something cap out, and then move on to better pastures. I too do not know what SE was thinking here. This is not an event with longevity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkovChain View Post
    People don't do abyssea anymore, this doesn't make sense at all.
    Does it count only people who have leveled up MNK in the last year or over all time? Over all time? Then well it seems the past is just as relevant, also people still level MNK/WAR for blue/red procs because not every person in the game is actually done with it all yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkovChain View Post
    People don't do abyssea anymore, this doesn't make sense at all.
    Basing which job is the best on which is the most played doesn't make sense either.
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    Basing it on what job is popular between lv 6 and 99 is even worse. 34.78% of the characters in that data can't even use advanced jobs. 66.22% are lv 75 and lower. Also, of the supposed 15.65%, the main job/subjob distribution chart shows 1.3% of that is mnk/war and mnk/dnc (combined), so the remaining 14.35% is other combinations, with mnk/nin being no more than than 0.44% since that's the lowest value listed on the chart.

    The lv 99 job distribution is this, with mnk coming in at 8th:



    Anyways, back on topic, there is demand in my ls for some of the gear--upgraded nashira body for dark magic skill (and slightly more haste for drain/aspirs) and the new feet for smn in particular.
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    Player MarkovChain's Avatar
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    That chart is not representative of what job is being used. People do have plenty of jobs leveled because it's abyssea but the other chart shows what jobs are used at a given time, so it's more representative overall. For instance lots of people have BST leveled because it can be useful sometimes (dynamis) while if you screenshot the server at a given time you will see much less bst and much more WHM in proportion.
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    In the main job table:
    21.94% of the characters are lv 99.
    72.57% of the characters below lv 90.
    66.22% of the characters are lv 75 and lower.
    32.72% of the characters are too low level to use advanced jobs.
    21.26% are too low level to be able to use subjobs.
    This is very representative of what's good at endgame.


    For those who want to discuss the gear (i.e. stay on topic), here are the stats so you don't have to go look them all up
    Arch Omega gear:

    Enif Corazza [Body] All Races
    DEF:75 HP+45 MP+45 Accuracy+23 "Quadruple Attack"+2% Haste+3%
    LV 99 THF PLD DRK DRG BLU

    Enif Cosciales [Legs] All Races
    DEF:49 HP+40 MP+40 Accuracy+6 Attack+6 Enhances "Fast Cast" effect Haste+5%
    LV 99 THF PLD DRK DRG BLU

    Enif Gambieras [Feet] All Races
    DEF:29 HP+48 MP+48 Accuracy+6 Attack+6 Ranged Accuracy+6 Haste+4% Wyvern: HP+80
    LV 99 THF PLD DRK DRG BLU

    Enif Manopolas [Hands] All Races
    DEF:30 HP+33 MP+33 Accuracy+5 Attack+5 Enmity+7 Haste+4%
    LV 99 THF PLD DRK DRG BLU

    Enif Zucchetto [Head] All Races
    DEF:49 HP+35 MP+35 Accuracy+7 Attack+7 Magic Accuracy+7 Haste+5%
    LV 99 THF PLD DRK DRG BLU


    Murzim Corazza [Body] All Races
    DEF:75 HP+53 MP+53 Attack+15 "Store TP"+6 Haste+4%
    LV 99 THF PLD DRK RNG DRG COR PUP DNC

    Murzim Cosciales [Legs] All Races
    DEF:49 HP+36 MP+36 Ranged Accuracy+16 Ranged Attack+7 Increases "Rapid Shot" activation rate
    LV 99 THF PLD DRK RNG DRG COR PUP DNC

    Murzim Gambieras [Feet] All Races
    DEF:29 HP+35 MP+35 Attack+12 Enmity+8 Haste+3%
    LV 99 THF PLD DRK RNG DRG COR PUP DNC

    Murzim Manopolas [Hands] All Races
    DEF:30 HP+35 MP+35 Attack+5 Haste+4% Increases critical hit damage
    LV 99 THF PLD DRK RNG DRG COR PUP DNC

    Murzim Zucchetto [Head] All Races
    DEF:46 HP+42 MP+42 Enmity-6 Haste+5% Automaton: Haste+6%
    LV 99 THF PLD DRK RNG DRG COR PUP DNC

    Arch Ultima gear:

    Adhara Crackows [Feet] All Races
    DEF:27 Magic Accuracy+3 Enhancing magic skill +8 Elemental magic skill +8 Summoning magic skill +8 "Conserve MP"+4 Haste+3%
    LV 99 WHM BLM RDM SMN BLU

    Adhara Gages [Hands] All Races
    DEF:28 Magic Accuracy+6 "Magic Attack Bonus"+6 Enmity-5 Avatar perpetuation cost -2 Haste+2%
    LV 99 WHM BLM RDM SMN BLU

    Adhara Manteel [Body] All Races
    DEF:63 Magic Accuracy+5 Healing magic skill +13 Dark magic skill +13 Blue magic skill +13 Haste+4%
    LV 99 WHM BLM RDM SMN BLU

    Adhara Seraweels [Legs] All Races
    DEF:40 Magic Accuracy+4 Divine magic skill +11 Healing magic skill +11 Enfeebling magic skill +11 Enmity-3 Haste+3%
    LV 99 WHM BLM RDM SMN BLU

    Adhara Turban [Head] All Races
    DEF:38 Magic Accuracy+7 "Magic Attack Bonus"+7 Enmity-6 Haste+3% Spell interruption rate down 20%
    LV 99 WHM BLM RDM SMN BLU


    Shedir Crackows [Feet] All Races
    DEF:29 "Blood Boon"+3 Avatar: Enhances magic accuracy Enhances "Magic Attack Bonus" Increases "Blood Pact" damage
    LV 99 WHM BLM RDM BRD SMN BLU SCH

    Shedir Gages [Hands] All Races
    DEF:28 Sword skill +10 Club skill +10 Staff skill +10 Divine magic skill +10 Healing magic skill +10 Enfeebling magic skill +10
    LV 99 WHM BLM RDM BRD SMN BLU SCH

    Shedir Manteel [Body] All Races
    DEF:63 Accuracy+10 Attack+10 Magic Accuracy+5 "Magic Attack Bonus"+5 Haste+4% Potency of "Cure" effects received +3%
    LV 99 WHM BLM RDM BRD SMN BLU SCH

    Shedir Seraweels 99 [Legs] All Races
    DEF:40 Enhancing magic skill +15 Elemental resistance spells +15 Enhances "Stoneskin" effect Enhances "Aquaveil" effect
    LV 99 WHM BLM RDM BRD SMN BLU SCH

    Shedir Turban 99 [Head] All Races
    DEF:38 Magic Accuracy+4 Singing skill +4 Haste+5% Song recast delay -3
    LV 99 WHM BLM RDM BRD SMN BLU SCH
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkovChain View Post
    MNK pretty much erased war this year again. Not sure what your 2nd DD would be ? SAM fanboy ? There are alrealy more sam than pups.
    You can't be this dumb can you? That chart shows jobs being used, because MNK is 100x more easy to play then WAR or SAM of course its gonna be used more, doesnt mean its the best, just means its the noobs job of choice for DD. Like i said MNK is a good DD and it is worth using. But the best? No, If you take the best gear/skill into account MNK will only be 3rd best in situations worth doing.
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    Yea because war play style is totally different than monk lol. Engage > kill shit. The reason noone plays dark or sam is because they suck. AF3+2 is equally easy to obtain for all 20 jobs and is basically the best gear for all DDs still.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkovChain View Post
    Yea because war play style is totally different than monk lol. Engage > kill shit. The reason noone plays dark or sam is because they suck. AF3+2 is equally easy to obtain for all 20 jobs and is basically the best gear for all DDs still.
    SAM is probably better the WAR, i just know their DMG output potential exceeds MNK.
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