Camlann's Torment

[Raenil]

Well, of course. But you're forced to use a vastly inferior WS in exchange for a boost to TP damage, which doesn't pan out very well for Rhongomiant.

[NeoForte]

While the aftermath is nice, wouldn't that also mean that Ryunohige is pretty much the best "Relic" DRG can get. At Lv90 it gets a 15% boost to Drakesbane and it has Oc Attacks Twice as it's aftermath.

[Burmecia]

While the aftermath is nice, wouldn't that also mean that Ryunohige is pretty much the best "Relic" DRG can get. At Lv90 it gets a 15% boost to Drakesbane and it has Oc Attacks Twice as it's aftermath.

That's kind of how I felt, and why I'm more interested in getting a Ryunohige someday (not putting a huge effort into it yet though since mythics are still perhaps the hardest relics to get). I think what makes it kind of "meh" now is that the "jump" augments don't affect our new jumps, supposedly, and our new jumps are still preferred because of their high damage and TP boost. But overall, I still think Ryunohige is maybe the best relic for dragoon in my opinion. Empyrean is just a whole lot easier to get.

[Raenil]

Yeah, Ryunohige is (as far as I can recall) the best weapon for DRG. The issue is obtaining one. Alexandrites are ~50% more expensive than they were when Mythics were popular and pretty much impossible to find these days outside of spamming Salvage.

[Bladewolf]

Yeah Ryunohige is pretty good. I need to look to see how the dmg is now but when it came out the dmg was way too low for me. It is really hard to get...

Camlann's is actually really useful not what I would call inferior. Since I know I can't use Drakesbane on a normal mob without getting ruby... Camlann's I can use at the start of the fight to take about 50% of the mobs HP. Outside of Abyssea Camlann's does do the same and sometimes more dmg than Drakesbane.

[Stromgarde]

Yeah Ryunohige is pretty good. I need to look to see how the dmg is now but when it came out the dmg was way too low for me. It is really hard to get...

Camlann's is actually really useful not what I would call inferior. Since I know I can't use Drakesbane on a normal mob without getting ruby... Camlann's I can use at the start of the fight to take about 50% of the mobs HP. Outside of Abyssea Camlann's does do the same and sometimes more dmg than Drakesbane.

Aye, on the whole, it is better than Drakesbane outside of Abyssea, just not by much. Best way to sum it up is 'disappointing relative to other empyrean weaponskills'.

[Bladewolf]

Aye, on the whole, it is better than Drakesbane outside of Abyssea, just not by much. Best way to sum it up is 'disappointing relative to other empyrean weaponskills'.

I can agree with that...

[Anucris]

why cant difficult to get WS's just be really good? i most often use skewer and do between 2k(NM)-5.6k(birds/bats) dmg in abyssea outside abyssea its about the same as penta. wish i had drakesbane i bet it would be better but it and camlaans torment are a lot of work to get. and its sad that u get skewer so much earlier and theres no effort required. the only reason to get camlaans torment it seems is because of the base wpn damage and the aftermath.

[Ophannus]

Also Calmanns>Calmanns makes Light which you can then Calmanns again for double Light.

[Lancil]

I don't want to go into the details, but you cannot do Camlanns>Camlanns>Camlanns for double light. You could do Camlanns>Drakes and close with Camlanns, or vice versa to make double.