Lower The Minimum Level Required To Enter Abyssea from 30-1

[Ramsos]

Forgot about that, I had most stuff leveled before level sync, cept maybe NIN magic and katna skill. I still managed to keep my skill caped though once I started to move AHU areas.

Ok lets make everyone 1/2 happy.

No skill ups needed ( you get max skills for your level automatically )
abyssea entery is now 75 ( go level a slowish way since you dont have to skill upXD)
double the rate of exp gain in old area party ( on top of the buff already placed)

How does this make "everyone 1/2 happy"? All three things you mentioned favor the vocal minority and do nothing for the vast majority of players who are either happy with the current system, or support the cap being lowered to 1.

[rog]

and is why you should never sync to low, unless you need to.

Why not? Because skilling up (which can be done entirely afk, without any kind of cheating) is too hard?

[rog]

How does this make "everyone 1/2 happy"? All three things you mentioned favor the vocal minority and do nothing for the vast majority of players who are either happy with the current system, or support the cap being lowered to 1.

In fact, the only one of those i would support is doubling exp outside of abyssea. The other two, i'd be strongly opposed to.

[Kailea_Nagisa]

EXP outside Abyssea is already double at the moment, I say double it again, then place the cap on Abyssea to 70, that would restore balance to the leveling areas, and still have people leveling at a faster pace then before Abyssea. Reason why many people dont want it changed, is because they feel that the old way take to much time. If you are worry about time, why are you playing a MMORPG -.-

[Jakary]

i kinda disagree, i dont like gimp nubs, and thats kinda what abyssea is making everyone, i understand that the bulk of the players on ffxi have been on ffxi for some time, but still, taking the minimum lvl cap off of abyssea is kinda stupid, i dont like the fact that abyssea took away all the outside of abyssea partying, and i also dont like the fact that anyone can get any job to 90 in under 2 days, and ontop of that not everyone has every skill capped, so when they get to 90 theyre gimped. they may know the role of a certain job, but they'll never be able to play the job right because they didnt experience the grind of leveling from 1 to 75. that grind in particular helped me become the player i am today, theres only 2 jobs that i leeched and thats because i had played them before and know my role, my abilities, and all that entails those jobs.
i have had to rely on gimp people during events and it sucked when they couldnt take hate off of me or heal me for a decent amount or keep debuffs off of me, or even do enough damage to the mob that we kill it in a timely fashion. anyways. thats my 2 cents and im sticking to it

[mystery]

if you like a challenge then level outside of abyssea, no one is making you leach once you get to 30.

I love to learn and skill as I lvl but this is making it so people have to solo all the time to level very few people party. want to just stick character in abyssea and sit and let other people lvl them and then they have no skills or knowledge of their job but proudly say I have 20 lvl 90 jobs. I personally hate to party in high lvl parties with a leecher they really get people killed

[magnius]

they may know the role of a certain job, but they'll never be able to play the job right because they didnt experience the grind of leveling from 1 to 75. that grind in particular helped me become the player i am today, theres only 2 jobs that i leeched and thats because i had played them before and know my role, my abilities, and all that entails those jobs.
i have had to rely on gimp people during events and it sucked when they couldnt take hate off of me or heal me for a decent amount or keep debuffs off of me, or even do enough damage to the mob that we kill it in a timely fashion. anyways. thats my 2 cents and im sticking to it

I think I understand now why a lot of these newer players hate Abyssea. I never really got it til now. I'm slow, I'm sorry. I'm sorry newer players who know their jobs have to deal with unskilled players, while the older players have an already established, skilled LS to back them up. They can't join an established and skilled LS because quite honestly, for my LS anyway, we aren't looking for any new members since Abyssea has destroyed the need for high members in LSes. So, now, the moderately skilled newer players are stuck with the poorly skilled players. Man, that must suck lol.

[Zagen]

i kinda disagree, i dont like gimp nubs, and thats kinda what abyssea is making everyone

Play with better people >.> My friend and I have leeched several jobs in particular BST, MNK and BLM (both of us so we can take turns) We trio (some times just duo because MNK/DNC is enough healing or duo BST cuz we're lazy and pets are that awesome) a lot things MNK/WHM/BLM that most people I know require a group of 6+ people, and I'm not talking about because they need proc jobs I mean because they need 2 tanks or 2 healers, etc.

Research and the ability to apply that research to the game is what makes a good player not how they level a job.

[rog]

i kinda disagree, i dont like gimp nubs, and thats kinda what abyssea is making everyone

How so?

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[magnius]

Play with better people >.> My friend and I have leeched several jobs in particular BST, MNK and BLM (both of us so we can take turns) We trio (some times just duo because MNK/DNC is enough healing or duo BST cuz we're lazy and pets are that awesome) a lot things MNK/WHM/BLM that most people I know require a group of 6+ people, and I'm not talking about because they need proc jobs I mean because they need 2 tanks or 2 healers, etc.

Research and the ability to apply that research to the game is what makes a good player not how they level a job.

I think Jakary's complaints stems mostly from the people he plays with. And admit it, it's easier said than done to simply find better people to play with because as I have said before, an established group is an established group. They already have a set plan for the people they already have. Adding more members to the group will just lengthen their list of things they need to do. However, I do believe there are groups out there that don't mind adding to the ranks. It's just a matter of finding them.

Although, I am aware this thread was probably started just as a joke, I must also add I vehemently disagree with lowering or raising the level requirements for Abyssea. All players need to find a way to deal with the set standards. It's part of the challenge of playing this game and as many have already said, if you really don't agree with it, you should probably throw in the towel and come back at a later date -- like a lot of people have already done.