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    Quote Originally Posted by Fupafighter View Post
    Because I simply couldn't abyssea burn my sch up. It's not that hard to make a mule. Your just out to try to make me sound bad lol. Are you seriously trying to tell me I am a liar and that I am not willing or capable of making a mule? I'm done talking to you. Adapt if you want reward. If you don't enjoy it, quit.
    Stupid thing to say, running from a problem does not fix said problem, it simply avoids it. We all enjoy FFXI in some way or we would not play it, quiting does not do anything for us in this case. SE fixing what is broken lets us stay, lets them make more money, and lets the game be better than it is limited to due to flaws. If you want to quit when an event kicks your ass you go ahead, I think Ill stay and try to make the game better using the forums that are meant for player feedback.
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    I meant quit the game if you dont find joy in it. I would still be playing duty if i found joy in it. I'm not gonna wait for things to change that could make it fun again. He talks about lvling brd and being forced onto the job too often and never getting to use the gear that he set out and earned. He has choices. He just doesn't enjoy them. That's ffxi. There would be no skill involved if every job benefited an event the same way. Nor strategy, which is ffxi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fupafighter View Post
    I meant quit the game if you dont find joy in it.
    There is some, but it doesn't come from new events. That's the problem. There's still a few things here and there to dig around for in old stuff, and I have friends who returned that need help. Legion, VW, and Neo-Nyzul are just not appealing to me. Once my friends are where they want to be and I've tied up those few loose ends there's nothing for me. I'm not the only one in that boat. There could be something for everyone if they'd listen to us, but they refuse.

    They only care about pleasing themselves and you and those like you (no I don't mean that as an insult). That's why you don't see a problem. It's good for you, so it's good. If I thought the game were only good for me at the expense of you, I'd think that was a problem, but you don't really see it that way.

    I would still be playing duty if i found joy in it. I'm not gonna wait for things to change that could make it fun again. He talks about lvling brd and being forced onto the job too often and never getting to use the gear that he set out and earned. He has choices. He just doesn't enjoy them. That's ffxi. There would be no skill involved if every job benefited an event the same way. Nor strategy, which is ffxi.
    I never said every job had to benefit an event the same way. Obviously a WHM and a WAR shouldn't be interchangeable. I know you think I'm a moron, but I'm not nearly that stupid. There should be much more balance, but not the SE kind, in what jobs can effectively succeed in a given event. There does need to be SOME homogenization between jobs that share the same primary role. What SE, and many players don't seem to get is that one can take different "paths" to reach the same goal. Two jobs could achieve the same result in very different ways.

    My problems with BRD were a combination of LS politics (some people not required to level a non-DD while others couldn't join without one), the sheer OP nature of BRD, and human nature/player attitudes. I'm just saying I'm not willing to fall into the same trap again, and I'm also not going to try and tell anyone to make the same mistake I did. If you want to tell others to bite the bullet and level a job they're going to hate to get loot then fine as long as you will do the same. You say you have so fine.

    The real issue though is that events shouldn't be SO specific that there aren't multiple ways to win with different job combos. No, I don't mean 6 SAMs. I do think more healers, support and tanks (wherever that concept still exists) should be interchangeable. IF one cannot ever possibly get to a floor 100 without a SCH, for example (not saying it's the truth), then that is a problem in my eyes. If one cannot possibly beat Legion without Perfect Defense then as much as I like SMN, that also is a problem. It's great that that's a strategy, but it shouldn't be the only one.

    /shrug Just the late-night musings of a moron I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fupafighter View Post
    1. If you have whm rdm and blm, you should seriously have most of the gear for enhancing magic, and sch should already be level 49. 2. If you don't have the enhancing magic or the gear, go get it? That's already telling me you shouldn't be in the event with low uncapped skills. Noone is forcing you to do this event.
    Why did you quote everything i wrote? It's obvious you didn't read any of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fupafighter View Post
    How is that cheating lol? It simply means I don't have to sit around waiting for a whm to help me.
    That's like me saying embrava PD is cheating. I'm not breaking any rules.
    Obiviously it is if you play on a single computer. How do I know ? Because all the abyssea growned gimps like you did it (probably monk and whm). Come to think of it, in abyssea windower was THE cool thing to have so the more I think about it the less I think they are going to do anything to Nyzul. Voidwatch/nyzul/legion proves that they have no clue.

    Personnally I'm quitting when I have my 250 marrows because past that I'm not sure where the fun is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkovChain View Post
    Obiviously it is if you play on a single computer. How do I know ? Because all the abyssea growned gimps like you did it (probably monk and whm). Come to think of it, in abyssea windower was THE cool thing to have so the more I think about it the less I think they are going to do anything to Nyzul. Voidwatch/nyzul/legion proves that they have no clue.

    Personnally I'm quitting when I have my 250 marrows because past that I'm not sure where the fun is.


    I dual box all the time. It's called having a laptop and a PC. Don't assume that those that dualbox are using multi-instance tricks on PC <.<

    A buddy of mine would on occassion trio-box when trying to get a second char something, by using PC, laptop, and 360.

    People need to be more understanding about what "cheating" actually is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babekeke View Post
    If you can't out-claim someone who's AFK, you need to find a new game to play.

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    cheat

    verb (used with object)
    1.
    to defraud; swindle: He cheated her out of her inheritance.
    2.
    to deceive; influence by fraud: He cheated us into believing him a hero.
    3.
    to elude; deprive of something expected: He cheated the law by suicide.
    verb (used without object)
    4.
    to practice fraud or deceit: She cheats without regrets.
    5.
    to violate rules or regulations: He cheats at cards.
    6.
    to take an examination or test in a dishonest way, as by improper access to answers.
    7.
    Informal. to be sexually unfaithful (often followed by on): Her husband knew she had been cheating all along. He cheated on his wife.

    Cheatting on the Offical forums :

    1. Using macros / gear swaps
    2. having an opinion
    3. playing on pc in any fashon
    4. using more then one account and or having a mule to dual box

    Troll

    In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory,[2] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[3] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[4] The noun troll may refer to the provocative message itself, as in: "That was an excellent troll you posted."

    Trolling on the offical Forums :
    1. posting anything worth a dame
    2. having an educated view
    3. disagreeing with ANYONE
    4. playing on PC
    5. inferring in any sort of way that someone and or by default the statements they make are uneducated.

    welcome to the Official forums were everyone but ps2/360 users are cheating trolls who have no idea how to play this game like real players and if you use gear swaps or haste gear your a bad player and ruin the game for everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by isladar View Post
    As far as I'm aware BG has always held the position of "We're not the *** Morality Police". People are welcome to express their opinions about third party programs on this site. However, we will, as stated, ban the *** *** out of someone trying to post links to said programs. And if people want to cry about Stan's guild program then they should probably start boycotting ffxiah. And excel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gokku View Post
    Good stuff.
    Did you know, almost 9 years ago, when a certain program called Windower was nothing but an idea, there was general consensus among PC players that console players had a clear and unfair advantage?

    You see, back in those days... the dark times, you could only play FFXI in full-screen mode. This meant that I needed a second computer/laptop in order to use the internet while playing FFXI. My PS2-playing counterparts didn't have this issue.

    I find the distrust these Official Forums PS2/360 members display very curious. Of course, I was riding the "kill PS2 before it kills FFXI" bandwagon a few years ago. Maybe if we stopped supporting that crap, we could have gotten a GUI overhaul 3+ years ago. Or more macro lines. Or just less of these crazy, overly distrusting console players.

    Either way, I'm a lying, cheating fraud for playing on PC; while dual-boxing on my laptop; while watching a movie on the TV; and while microwaving my snack for a pre-LS event tummy stuffer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babekeke View Post
    If you can't out-claim someone who's AFK, you need to find a new game to play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkovChain View Post
    Obiviously it is if you play on a single computer. How do I know ? Because all the abyssea growned gimps like you did it (probably monk and whm). Come to think of it, in abyssea windower was THE cool thing to have so the more I think about it the less I think they are going to do anything to Nyzul. Voidwatch/nyzul/legion proves that they have no clue.

    Personnally I'm quitting when I have my 250 marrows because past that I'm not sure where the fun is.
    getting 250 marrows is fun?
    fun...
    fun
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    Quote Originally Posted by Llana_Virren View Post
    Did you know, almost 9 years ago, when a certain program called Windower was nothing but an idea, there was general consensus among PC players that console players had a clear and unfair advantage?

    You see, back in those days... the dark times, you could only play FFXI in full-screen mode. This meant that I needed a second computer/laptop in order to use the internet while playing FFXI. My PS2-playing counterparts didn't have this issue.

    I find the distrust these Official Forums PS2/360 members display very curious. Of course, I was riding the "kill PS2 before it kills FFXI" bandwagon a few years ago. Maybe if we stopped supporting that crap, we could have gotten a GUI overhaul 3+ years ago. Or more macro lines. Or just less of these crazy, overly distrusting console players.

    Either way, I'm a lying, cheating fraud for playing on PC; while dual-boxing on my laptop; while watching a movie on the TV; and while microwaving my snack for a pre-LS event tummy stuffer.
    psht you call that old school i used to live in japan , on ps2 i could out claim people since mob would spawn on my screen a full 10-20 secs before even loading on PC users screens, PS2 was the OG claim bot back in the day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by isladar View Post
    As far as I'm aware BG has always held the position of "We're not the *** Morality Police". People are welcome to express their opinions about third party programs on this site. However, we will, as stated, ban the *** *** out of someone trying to post links to said programs. And if people want to cry about Stan's guild program then they should probably start boycotting ffxiah. And excel.

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