NEO Nyzul 2.0

[Kaisha]

Show numbers on the lamps - sure it removes the challenge of figuring out the order, but helps you figure out how many to look for on same-time floors, and you still need to leave someone at each lamp to hit them in order. It'd still be a long floor, compared to family, single monster, code lamp, etc - but it's not a run-ender.

This. Lamp floors are the most stressful since they're a guaranteed time waster (aside from Code), which are can't afford at all in Nyzul2.0. Every other type of floor takes at most 1-2 minutes depending on your setup, your kill speed, and hopefully isn't one of those giant empty floors where you spend a minute alone searching for that one final monster to clear the objective.

Would be more fun to search out a numbered order than to have people sit still for 3-4 minutes figuring out the order and waiting on the long cooldown between tries.

[Behemothx]

Get rid of lamp lighting order altogether, I don't think anyone will miss them.

[saevel]

Meh I did Nyzul the other day with MNK MNK WAR WAR SCH SCH, didn't win but got to floor 90-98ish three times(but we were slow on lamp floors) probably could have gotten to 100 if we invested in sprinter drinksx2 and powder boots.

You wouldn't of had time to kill the boss and lot / pass the gear.

This is an ever where seconds count and why the random BS that can happen on floors screws you.

[Insaniac]

Remove lamp order floors or label the lamps 1 through 5. Order floors destroy any chance a group has of getting 100 unless they guess right on the 1st or 2nd try and the chance of that on a 5 lamp floor is extremely low and it seems like the chance of hitting order floors is pretty high.

P.S. I made a list of pretty universally supported ideas for NI2 HERE that never got any comrep attention.

[saevel]

This. Lamp floors are the most stressful since they're a guaranteed time waster (aside from Code), which are can't afford at all in Nyzul2.0. Every other type of floor takes at most 1-2 minutes depending on your setup, your kill speed, and hopefully isn't one of those giant empty floors where you spend a minute alone searching for that one final monster to clear the objective.

Would be more fun to search out a numbered order than to have people sit still for 3-4 minutes figuring out the order and waiting on the long cooldown between tries.

2min is too long for any floor. Assuming 5 min total for final boss / lot / pass and lobby entry, that leaves you 25m to do the actual run. For needing 17 floors you need to clear each one is 88s or less.

The two biggest time wasters are lamps and kill all. Floors tend to have NMs on them, and kill all means you gotta deal with this NMs, some of them have extremely annoying abilities or take long times to kill (Flan / Quirin). That is time that you've effectively flushed down the toilet. Its all the running around that wastes time.

[Kaisha]

I said at most. You aren't guaranteed to always have 1min floors, but you're still allowed to have a couple 2min here and there in the offchance you get a good floor jump, or you just get a floor that's time consuming, like a kill-all on a maze floor, or a family floor with Soulflayers.

[Chamaan]

Make all the neo lamp floors register or remove them, like people are saying. Also might I suggest letting the mission leader (guy who issues order to begin mission at start) select via a popup prompt to move up floors? It's a waste of time and resources to either leave someone at a lamp or have them leave the battle early to hoof it back to the runic lamp just to make the party jump floors.

[Renromix]

some floors are really huge

[saevel]

I said at most. You aren't guaranteed to always have 1min floors, but you're still allowed to have a couple 2min here and there in the offchance you get a good floor jump, or you just get a floor that's time consuming, like a kill-all on a maze floor, or a family floor with Soulflayers.

Every 2min floor is a 30s floor you need to have. The odds are in favor of longer floors not shorter. There are too many ways the RNG can screw you over. Kill all on a floor full of flans and puddings, guaranteed game finisher.

[FrankReynolds]

I’d like to put the two different Nyzul challenges into perspective a bit.

The original Nyzul was a lot easier to clear, but the drop rates were not very high. On top of the drop rate, you would only get one piece of equipment as well, which could possibly be something different than what you were after.

The new Nyzul might be a bit more difficult to reach floor 100, but if you are able to successfully get there and defeat the boss, each party member has a 100% guaranteed item, and what’s even better is that you can select the item of your choice.

Based on the above, though it might be more challenging to reach the higher floors, when you get there you will definitely be rewarded.

On a separate note, it seems like some players are finding the lamp floors to be the most troublesome. I would be happy to submit any suggestions you have for improving this aspect of Nyzul, so please list them out and I will talk to the development team about them.

So basically: "the old event was easy enough, but the gear / drops sucked. So we decided that this time around, the event part would suck, but the drops / gear would be good. We can't ever make an event that is just all around good because we don't want to raise the bar. There has to be some "suck" in there someplace. Enjoy!"

As far as lamps go... these would be great in an event that wasn't timed. Best recommendation I can come up with is to either remove them, or limit it to 1 instance of lamps per run.