NEO Nyzul 2.0

[Gokku]

when you've got ls members flee boting around at 200% for 9months straight 24/7 with 0 jail time... yea SE's not really concerned with people 3rd party usage.

[user201108211515]

Wow did your parrents teach you to be proud of cheating at a kids game?

Do they know what you really do all day? Cheat people you never meet. Talk down to people you deem under you because you have the best cheats arround. Would they really be proud of you?

I would sure hope not.

[Neisan_Quetz]

In game radar, please stop killing me here

[Demon6324236]

he is right though whn he says cheats (well light cheats like windower) were created to compensate the DEV's lack of playing the game. lol yeah, 10 year and still 6 macro lines, every year we get hundreds of gear.. come on..

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This is correct, Windower, and some things in or like it, have been made to fix SE's flaws in their game they will not do themselves. There is no reason not to give us more macro lines other than potential skilling up while afk, solvable via not actually giving us unlimited lines, 20 would work.

Distance: Oh frogs charm @ 20yalms? thats cool se to bad a fucking yalms a made up term and you gave us no way of knowing it. yet again shit they should have added to the game day 1 if they are going to base gimics around it.

Gokku is also correct in the fact of yalms. Do you want to tell me how the fuck you measure these? Can you eyeball the distance of yalms and say your 22.3 yalms from the mob? If to, I commend your attention to SE's system, at the same time, your lying out your ass more than likely.

They would have to get rid of to many players on the PC to get rid of people using windower. And PCs normally are the biggest MMO member supplier, because its where we have forums, we have to pay our billing, and its overall easier on us, let me just point this out though, you want PC people removed from you. Did you notice? They stopped making this game for anything EXCEPT the PC, also its only via digital download, they will not do this for Xbox either. What this means is if they did it, you would see almost no new players on your Xbox/PS2 servers you want. Soon as people leave, if they don't come back, your server just died a little more, and it wont get its life back.

Like it or not SE is lazy with this game when it comes to playing it. They do not care we want more macro spots and that they can do it they just make new content. I'm happy with this, if people using windower get this to help them, cool, less time on SE and more time on my new content. You said how hard is it to hit 2 macros. Being your on a console I don't expect you to know but from what I have ever seen with my PC, my Xbox is much easier to hit macros fast. PC I have to wait about a second for it to pop up my macros, then hit the button, after I do this though I have a problem, they take about 3 seconds before they will pop up, if I need 3 macros your talking about 10 seconds... no. My 360 gets that same 3 macros hit in 3-4 seconds at most because you can hit the trigger after hitting your macro and it pops up instantly.

You want to blame the PC players because you are not one, thats about as easy as I can say it, blame a different group because 1 did something in them so everyone must pay. If you don't like that people use windower, then bitch to SE to get off their ass and fix a 10 year old problem they have had no reason not to. I myself have never seen a use for Windower, because in the only time I have looked at it, it has many useless things to it that might be cheating in some form. Only thing I want from windower is macros. Call it an easy button if you want, but your wrong, its simply a user patch to a flawed game people cant get them to fix.

[user201108211515]

no i did it to show all the "drop console" players how stupid they sound. You did that nicely thanks.

You call things flaws then complain to SE about it. You have no right to change the rules as you see fit. That is called cheating. You might as well plug in your game genie while you are at it cauz where will a cheater really draw the line. You lack the morles to know right from wrong and I dont have 18 years to teach you where your parrents failed you.

[Neisan_Quetz]

You know using information outside the game is cheating right


Not to mention for there has been at least one contest you had to actively break the ToS to even enter the contest so it's pretty clear SE does not care.

[Aldersyde]

when you've got ls members flee boting around at 200% for 9months straight 24/7 with 0 jail time... yea SE's not really concerned with people 3rd party usage.

I remember, this one time, when people were duping salvage drops and there was a whole bunch of people on some forum saying that SE would never be able to catch all the dupers and even if they could, SE would never ban them because it was their mistake for having shitty code and it would destroy the game; then one day, a whole bunch of people got banned. A lot of laughs were had and one guy looked such a moron that he never showed showed his face under that name again. Good times.

Coming on to SE's forums and saying crap like that is just stupid. If people complain a lot, you can bet that someone will start looking in to it. And given their history with banning fishers and gardeners en masse and with little due process, i wouldn't hope for any kind of reasonable response on an issue like this when it happens.

[Dragoy]

You said how hard is it to hit 2 macros. Being your on a console I don't expect you to know but from what I have ever seen with my PC, my Xbox is much easier to hit macros fast. PC I have to wait about a second for it to pop up my macros, then hit the button, after I do this though I have a problem, they take about 3 seconds before they will pop up, if I need 3 macros your talking about 10 seconds... no. My 360 gets that same 3 macros hit in 3-4 seconds at most because you can hit the trigger after hitting your macro and it pops up instantly.

They actually did reduce the time for the palette to show up, but it brought up certain issues so I imagine it's put on hold fer now, if not discarded completely.

On another note, last time I checked, you can actually activate a macro without waiting for the palette to become visible. Sometimes they do not work even if they're visible, though, but that's a different matter altogether!

[Demon6324236]

no i did it to show all the "drop console" players how stupid they sound. You did that nicely thanks.

You call things flaws then complain to SE about it. You have no right to change the rules as you see fit. That is called cheating. You might as well plug in your game genie while you are at it cauz where will a cheater really draw the line. You lack the morles to know right from wrong and I dont have 18 years to teach you where your parrents failed you.

Actually no, see PC gamers could lose consoles and we would lose players, but we also have the only form of the game that is still able to be purchased, meaning our community wouldn't rot and die nearly as much because we can get new players. Consoles would because there is no ability for new players. Your ideals that cheating is anything and everything that is a 3rd party tool, is wrong, simple. If a company stops doing something for a game and people mod the game in a way that betters it, then the mod is not cheating, its infact fixing or adding to the game in question. Example, Star Wars:Empire at War. This game is never going to be touched by its makers, it has nothing coming to it, however people mod it and add content and fixes alot. Why is this the same? Because, SE has left us 10 years with this broken setup and they never fix it. So fans did what fans do, rather than watch a game we all love suffer because of this problem, we rise up, and we fixed it. Over these years all they have had to do is integrate some of what Windower has, and they would have been fine, you want to look for cheaters, look at people cheating via dat mods for lamps/NMs/Claim bots/flee shit. Windower is not your main problem your going to have, trust me.

[user201108211515]

people swore up n down that salvage duping was in the game for a reason and this is how SE wanted us to do it thats why the drop rates were so bad. Lots of lols later we saw how that turned out.

Who is willing to bet it wont happen again to NNI cheaters.