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    Quote Originally Posted by Monchat View Post
    I want a video of the dev team clearing floor 100 with at least 5 "lamp order" floors.
    Without pulling their AV Fade to black and Fade in at killshot
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    Remove order lamps. The fact that the dev team hasn't already done this is sad and disappointing. Maybe they'll fix it in the six months it took them to finally fix modus veritas/libra in VW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkovChain View Post
    The fact that you insist on killing speed in your argument against my statement proves my point. It's pretty obious that the killing speed is not what matters. The floors that matters are "code lamps" "order lamps" "enemies" the other are quick. The floors that don't matters are killall because each melee is unlikely to have more than 2 mobs to kill...
    The fact you insist killing speed has nothing to do with it leads me to believe you are not experienced with uncharted. Having well geared dds will save you seconds if not a minutes per floor that will matter in a winning run. Even the time it takes the porter to warp you up after a floor objective will matter overtime, time spent in the lobby etc. The reason i say every second matters is because we have come across winning runs that left us with only 10-30 secs remaining while other runs have felt so easy with 5mins remaining after the boss has been killed. Even in those 5 min to spare runs we where doing everything in the most efficient way in our knowledge without tool usage. For example dds splitting up every fork that comes up this is where kill speed/gear will matter since the dd will be left solo to kill possibly a formidable enemy so yes i will say setup/gear/player skill will matter in shaving off seconds/min you need. If you ask how is a dd surviving solo vs any mob that can pop up in a kill all/spec/family/boss then your doing it wrong, kinda hard to die with haste/body boost/embrava/regen/(pdt if needed for those massive body boost 1 enemy spec trains) for the full duration of the event. I can attest that 100 is possible without cheats i am not denying its a rare thing but it is possible, it does include some form of lucky randomness but also skill/experience within the group.

    P.S. If you read this Okipuit anyway you could suggest to the devs if the Nyzul lobby could be worked out to be like the Legion lobby so the event timer wont start till we are warped to floor 1? I'm sure i am not the only one wanting this!
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    I fear for the upcoming responses for my post, but I just wanted to say thanks for not dumbing down another event.
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    O-kaaaaay...
    How 'bout this, SE,
    Two changes:
    Increase the base for jumps as time runs down to 0
    Increase the likelihood of hitting a boss floor when timer gets below 5 minutes.

    Throw us a bone, even if it is a chicken bone, so that at least we'll have something to chew on.
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    The only people I have herd of that have success doing the new Nyzul are those using hacks, even then 2X sch with 2 hour resets are required for any normal group to have much of a chance at floor 100. To make matters worse the floor 80 gear is worthless in comparison to AF +2 which most people already have.

    If you want a real result on how many people can actually do this stuff perhaps you should exclude those who cheat.
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    edyth floor 100 is a guaranteed reward as ya get a KI yo trade in for your choice of drop.. the entire problem is getting to and beating said floor 100 boss
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    Quote Originally Posted by Okipuit View Post
    Hey everyone,

    The new Nyzul was not designed in such a way that it is impossible to clear. We understand that it is a challenge to reach and complete floor 100, but please keep in mind that successful runs offers guaranteed rewards. In addition, the development team was able to introduce rewards with some highly beneficial stats due to the level of difficulty associated with getting to and conquering floor 100. That said, there aren't any plans to simplify the journey up to the top
    Ya know, back in abyssea we had some good gear, like Zelus, a piece massively used by DDs everywhere due to high haste in a spot that for most DDs, doesn't come close to 8%. These were hard, not so difficult players went as far as to say impossible, and not so bad where many had to cheat to get it. Also we had real drop rates, and had the chance to get the gear we wanted.

    Since abyssea you have screwed us every step. You made VW drops stupid, luck is all that matters, you will probably cap lights before you kill anything worth your time, so all it comes down to is, did you get logs this time? You have Neo-Nyzul, where you ask players to get lucky again, but not with drops, this time you want players to get lucky with a random button that can easily make you lose if you get bad jumps. You gave us things based on luck currently, yes, some skill is involved, but I do not want my game 50% skill and 50% luck. Luck should not be a high value at all, I pay to play your game, I spend my time to play your game, and I get no reward for playing your game. And why? Because I have no luck in your game, I get logs, I get rocks, I get bad jumps, and I'm getting tired of getting worthless wastes of time.

    There is not one thing you can do to reverse the change you made to FFXI as it is. You want high end top of the line gear? You had it, you had Relics, but you made that easy and fast, people can make them so fast many events don't care about your gear. A Perle DRK with Rag will get in a VW party before a fully geared DRK, with great WS set for Reso5/5, great 5-6 hit TP build, and a decent GS. This is how you made it, you want things easy? Stick to your guns, make things easy, give them a challenge, give them a hard time, but you have made things in this game the way they are now.

    With your current setting you have, lv1~99 in a day is possible, an Emp in a week is possible, in a linkshell for it, you can have a Relic in 1~2 weeks. A well geared job is possible in a few days if you work at it. So tell me, why after you have made everything so easy, do you choose to go from happy paying people, playing your game, to mad angry people, getting mad at your game, when you could just leave things alone, make it easy~decently challenging content, and most would be happy.

    Legion is ok, its where the current challenge seems to be. Don't make hard content like this a 1 a day thing, or up to 4 if you wait 4+ days. That just means when you fail your even worse off, because now you have to wait days just to try again! When I lose something, I want the freedom to attempt it again, not just walk away and think it was a waste of my time.

    I'm starting to hate this game more and more because of your luck dependence, you made both VW & NNI a bunch of luck with some skill throw in. Move away from this idea. Get to the idea of intelligence. Effort/Time spent=Reward. This is what abyssea had. I put in my effort camping my NMs, killing my VNMs, and killing 30~35 Bria and 30~35 Sobek, and now I enjoy my Almace. I put in effort and time with my friends Emps, and they have them now. You know how far Abyssea went to make sure we didn't waste our time? They made items always drop 1, so if we weren't lucky, you get something you wanted still, you always get one. If your lucky you get extra, but its not dependent on luck!

    In short, go talk to the smart people who made abyssea, they understood Time/Effort should = Reward, you do not. You think if we smash the same thing over and over were having fun and we will do it happily for some items no, your wrong, not how we are. We want things for our time spent, not spit in the face and laughed at while our luck wasn't enough to get us through the event. As for you being able to make good gear because you made it so bad people cheat to win rather than waste time on your normal way of it being nearly impossible. Abyssea had good gear, really nice gear, and you know what? It wasn't nearly as terrible as this! Also it offers guaranteed rewards, but if I want a full set, I have to complete this 5 times?! This is terrible to complete once, let alone 15 times for all your gear.
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    Nyzul is possible without cheating, stop complaining.
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    You made good points, and very valid arguments, I seriously hope that the developers are listening to our feedbacks... The last year worth of contents are starting to rear its ugly head now that people are wizening up and seeing how hollow that said contents are, and see through the madness that the developers is trying to do. Which is doing the least amount of works and decided everything is based on luck and encourage people to cheat. While most of us do not realize this while we are playing the game due to abyssea crack doing its best to enthrall us, once you are able to step away from the game, you realize what a big massive failure the year 2011-2012 is. The only decent thing is Voidwatch, which they still willing to adjust. Everything else after is pretty much horrid fail. Let's hope our pleas are not going unanswered and the developers are actually doing some works!!

    Personally, all they have to do is to increase time limit of Neo Nyzul to 60 minutes per run. Either by giving us additional 5 minutes per floor boss kill, or using some other ways. This will solve ALL the problems we are having without them having to adjust A SINGLE THING other than the timer.
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    Last edited by Luvbunny; 06-01-2012 at 06:59 PM.

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