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    Greetings!

    I have a follow-up response from Producer Hiromichi Tanaka in regards to the new UI.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hiromichi_Tanaka View Post

    We have a few more things to add regarding gamepad controls for the new UI for the PC version.

    The concept for this new UI is to improve mouse and keyboard controls, since currently the game is much easier to control with a gamepad.

    Integral aspects of the new UI, such as multi-windows, continual macro display and drag-&-drop are all UI features that require a pointing devise such as a mouse. These features are very difficult to control using direction keys and analog sticks on gamepads. As such, using the multi-window interface with a gamepad will actually be more difficult to maneuver than the current interface, which goes against our objective of improving usability.

    For the above reasons, we would suggest that gamepad users continue to use the current UI, and mouse and keyboard users use the new UI. Players will be able to freely choose whichever UI that suits them better. However, there are some other adjustments in the new UI, such as multi-logs and recast displays, which will only be available on the new UI due to the required memory size and system specs.

    We understand that gamepad users would also like to utilize these new UI features, so we will do our best to make the new UI as maneuverable as possible for gamepad users.

    As it is very difficult to have it both ways with this UI, the recommended operating environment for the new UI will be mouse and keyboard.

    Also, the features included in the new UI require more memory than the current UI, so as stated earlier, the new UI is impossible to implement on platforms with fixed memory, such as PS2 and Xbox360.
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    So, why can't i sit at my desk for all of two minutes to move the logs and HP bars and things around, then just go lay on the couch like when i played XIV?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiromichi_Tanaka
    However, there are some other adjustments in the new UI, such as multi-logs
    Sounds just like voidwatch and WoE
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiromichi_Tanaka View Post
    Integral aspects of the new UI, such as multi-windows, continual macro display and drag-&-drop are all UI features that require a pointing devise such as a mouse. These features are very difficult to control using direction keys and analog sticks on gamepads. As such, using the multi-window interface with a gamepad will actually be more difficult to maneuver than the current interface, which goes against our objective of improving usability.
    Sorry but this post is completely based on the assumption that gamepad users are unable to use mouse and keyboard.
    You don't really need to resize and customize the UI in real time while playing.
    It's something that you can do once and for all, during idle time etc. The same type of situations where you edit the currently not-much-editable UI or customize your macros.

    Also, aside from this, wether or not it's harder to customize the new UI with a gamepad (something we can all agree with) you should still give users the so-called "freedom of choice". Make so they are the ones to choose wether or not they want to use the new UI and a gampad.
    SE's role as developers should be that to offer this *additional* possibility to users, it's up to them wether or not they want to make use of it.

    I mean, really, from the previous post (the one before this one I'm quoting) I understood that players using a gamepad would be *UNABLE* to use the new UI with a gamepad, and that they would have been forced to use the new keyboard/mouse setup.

    I don't see what's the big problem in giving players the *OPTION* to get the new possibilities offered by the new UI, that they will have to customize with a standard mouse, and then keep playing with gamepad plus keyboard like they've been doing all these years.
    Either something got lost during translation from japanese to english, or Mr. Tanaka's post just make no sense at all.
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    Last edited by Zhronne; 05-12-2012 at 01:05 AM.
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