New Windows Version User Interface

[JiltedValkyrie]

To clarify i play the game with a game pad and using my hd tv from the comfort of my recliner, the way i bypass the whole mouse issue is i use a wireless laser mouse, for some games mouse and keyboard type controls do have a place but those usually are FPS types any game meant to be played in 3rd person view i will always prefer my game pad for.

No, I use a wireless mouse also, but it is not very comfortable and isn't entirely practical for continuous gaming.

[Nala]

why is it that whenever a post has a tanaka response, all I ever feel is rage...

I have never seen anyone before so completely miss the point

yeah, even when he announces something that i actually care about or might be awesome it seems he has to add some balance to the idea. guy's freaking anikin, he will bring balance to the final fantasy. (we all know how that turned out for dear little anni)

No, I use a wireless mouse also, but it is not very comfortable and isn't entirely practical for continuous gaming.

I use a Logitech Performance MX with a Darkfield laser, unless i forget to charge it using my armrest as a mouse pad works perfectly with my keyboard in my lap for FPS's and the like, i have no responsiveness issues and i do not need much surface area to operate it either.

Point of the matter you should only need to use your mouse once to configure the UI/Chat logs/Widgets in the first place, and considering your preference you'd set it once and then sit back, what they need to do with this new UI is not add the ability to configure it with the game pad as much as allowing you to maintain the same functionality with a game pad with the new UI, you'd only be minus the quick access macro bar on the bottom.

[Lisotte]

Don't forget people, windower and the like (in fact other ui configurations) will now be legitimitised. So I find it quite likely that some awesome dude out there will find a way to get good features of this ui working with gamepad

[Dragoy]

Don't forget people, windower and the like (in fact other ui configurations) will now be legitimitised. So I find it quite likely that some awesome dude out there will find a way to get good features of this ui working with gamepad

Not sure if serious.

How do you figure that their intention is to do that? I'm rather sure that custom scripts or however it would be best described at this point does not mean it's OK to use third-party apps, or cheats, like that. ^^;

It will certainly be more controlled than you might imagine.


I could, of course, be wrong but I do doubt it.
Only time will tell I guess!

[Lisotte]

Not sure if serious.

How do you figure that their intention is to do that? I'm rather sure that custom scripts or however it would be best described at this point does not mean it's OK to use third-party apps, or cheats, like that. ^^;

It will certainly be more controlled than you might imagine.


I could, of course, be wrong but I do doubt it.
Only time will tell I guess!

Considering they will allow for re-configuration of the UI by 3rd party, I see no reason why in 2012 they can't let you re-design the UI completely to some extent. There's plenty of decent MMOs out there where you can change a hella lot of stuff in the UI; why be "special" and be stuck in 2003?

Regardless, since I play controller I'm probably not going to be using the new UI.

[Finuve]

why is it that whenever a post has a tanaka response, all I ever feel is rage...

I have never seen anyone before so completely miss the point

[Daniel]

I'm not quite sure I understand this, the UI options won't be available to choose? You either get all or nothing? Can't I just chose to turn off certain UI options like permanent macros?

[Nala]

to avoid botting concerns allow that type of macroing only work for gear swaping.

[wildsprite]

We have a few more things to add regarding gamepad controls for the new UI for the PC version.

The concept for this new UI is to improve mouse and keyboard controls, since currently the game is much easier to control with a gamepad.

Integral aspects of the new UI, such as multi-windows, continual macro display and drag-&-drop are all UI features that require a pointing devise such as a mouse. These features are very difficult to control using direction keys and analog sticks on gamepads. As such, using the multi-window interface with a gamepad will actually be more difficult to maneuver than the current interface, which goes against our objective of improving usability.

For the above reasons, we would suggest that gamepad users continue to use the current UI, and mouse and keyboard users use the new UI. Players will be able to freely choose whichever UI that suits them better. However, there are some other adjustments in the new UI, such as multi-logs and recast displays, which will only be available on the new UI due to the required memory size and system specs.

We understand that gamepad users would also like to utilize these new UI features, so we will do our best to make the new UI as maneuverable as possible for gamepad users.

As it is very difficult to have it both ways with this UI, the recommended operating environment for the new UI will be mouse and keyboard.

Also, the features included in the new UI require more memory than the current UI, so as stated earlier, the new UI is impossible to implement on platforms with fixed memory, such as PS2 and Xbox360.

who says we want to drag&drop the UI features with the gamepad? I don't recall anyone saying that, I'll just use my mouse for that, I should still be able to retain most of if not all of the functionality with a gamepad on the new UI, if not that is just a cop out, I know for a fact it can be done

[Finuve]

who says we want to drag&drop the UI features with the gamepad? I don't recall anyone saying that, I'll just use my mouse for that, I should still be able to retain most of if not all of the functionality with a gamepad on the new UI, if not that is just a cop out, I know for a fact it can be done

this

please answer my other question, will we have control through scripting of handling game pad inputs, because this alone will allow us to fix ourselves any issues that crop up with gamepad control, and this would at least allow a fix for issues that the dev team doesnt find important enough (for some unknown reason)