Please make the -ite stones a 100% drop from avatar battles.

[Seiowan]

Personally, I actually like this idea. It's not game breaking, and it makes a lot of sense from an elements standpoint (always double weather inside the Avatar fights, after all).

So far the only counter argument I've seen is that it makes things 'easy' or that people won't have to endlessly grind mobs to obtain them. Since when did having to log into the game at specific times to get specific day or weather (weather is especially annoying) equate to an enjoyable experience? This game has enough ways to beat us over the head without having to write our lives around Vana'diels annoying little timetable.

One a day is hardly going to destroy game balance, as there are people who can obtain their geodes in far less time than the 15 days it would take for a basic Empyrean weapon. That's a whole fortnight of casual play to get their gear.

I personally couldn't care less that some people enjoy farming these things solidly for 10 hours straight to get their Empyrean weapons, I couldn't care less about being branded as a 'noob' for being a more casual player who doesn't like to spend hours on farming for a tiny 'chance' of obtaining what I need. I daresay one of the reasons Abyssea is so popular is because people can see a progression towards their item with every fight rather than endless grinding. Clearly I'm not part of a minority who feel this way, just more vocal.

I present an arguement that the majority opposed already have some Empyrean weapons and are simply concerned that it will belittle the endless farming they went through to obtain their geodes for it. Prove me wrong.

[Bulrogg]

It take me a lot longer than three minutes to accept the quest, travel to the battle area, defeat the avatar, travel back to the quest starter and choose a reward. I bet there's almost two minutes of cut scenes even spamming through them.

Forgive me for coming in all TL;DR(much) and offering a suggestion. I didn't think a pouch reward (randomly containing 1-4 geodes/-ites) would be that devastating.

I said nothing about Dynamis, Salvage or AFKSMN. Perhaps you are addressing someone else?

Are geode/-ite farmers worried that if another method of obtaining these items is implemented, they'll have to find something else to farm once the prices drop? Seems like a reason to be against the OP to me.

EDIT- Why ask not SE make Prime 99 fights? They've got Neo-Nyzul, New-Limbus... make 99 Primes and then add the pouch reward; as well as new (or augmented) avatar reward item choices.

[Camiie]

I see you would love to see a Crash in the game market then. the most expensive geodes I've seen are Fire, not just because there is low fire weather, but because people are just to lazy to farm them during the game days. its all Supply and Demand. alot of people want to have Str weapons, but not many people want to go out of there way and farm up all the geodes they need. (low Supply, High Demand) They would rather buy them, or just sit around crying.

While I'm glad Geodes and Avatarites are available for purchase, one's ability to make money off of them is not their primary purpose. Their profitability should come second to their availability for completing weapons. The availability truly is unbalanced because of the limited nature of certain weather types.

If they aren't going to make any adjustments to weather then they need to offer a different method to balance what is unbalanced. A fire weapon really shouldn't be any harder to make than a water one, but it is.

and this is what the thread is, instead of farming up geodes you rather sit and cry for SE to give you 100% for 3 min of effort. and your arguments that it won't break the game is not a reason for it. it the same thing as crying cause you think farming Dynamis or Alexandrite is hard. its not, just takes time

also I get the feeling some of you are only complaining about this cause SE is now getting after you for AFk'ing as Smn

I was going to give you the benefit of the doubt, but once you start throwing around baseless accusations and gross exaggerations you lose pretty much all credibility.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

If on siren currently, you purchaced all 55 flame geodes to complete a weapon, it would cost you 2,750,000 gil per weapon. Only for the geodes, not the 'ites.

[Camiie]

If on siren currently, you purchaced all 55 flame geodes to complete a weapon, it would cost you 2,750,000 gil per weapon. Only for the geodes, not the 'ites.

Yeah and while they can be great weapons, don't get me wrong, these are weapons meant for the common man. While I realize to many of the folks here 2.75 million+ gil is pocket change, don't forget the aforementioned Avatarites for the final trial AND all the day/weather kill trials that come before the final 3. It all adds up to a pretty darn expensive weapon to not be anything particularly special. Even if one farms up the Geodes and Avatarites, that's a hefty time investment only offset by the few they will obtain from the preceding trials. Considering most fire trials are done by day rather than the ever rare weather that's even more time spent getting fewer items.

[Tamoa]

EDIT- Why ask not SE make Prime 99 fights? They've got Neo-Nyzul, New-Limbus... make 99 Primes and then add the pouch reward; as well as new (or augmented) avatar reward item choices.

This isn't a bad idea at all.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

This isn't a bad idea at all.

There's a whole thread on it, I think SE said "we don't plan on it," but maybe it was an "I'll ask them." I don't recall.

There's already avatar++ fights through another quest, they should expand on that one instead.

[Wesa]

I see you would love to see a Crash in the game market then. the most expensive geodes I've seen are Fire, not just because there is low fire weather, but because people are just to lazy to farm them during the game days. its all Supply and Demand. alot of people want to have Str weapons, but not many people want to go out of there way and farm up all the geodes they need. (low Supply, High Demand) They would rather buy them, or just sit around crying.

and this is what the thread is, instead of farming up geodes you rather sit and cry for SE to give you 100% for 3 min of effort. and your arguments that it won't break the game is not a reason for it. it the same thing as crying cause you think farming Dynamis or Alexandrite is hard. its not, just takes time

also I get the feeling some of you are only complaining about this cause SE is now getting after you for AFk'ing as Smn

For reference purposes, I've been working on the STR/attack elemental sword lately. I headed into Kuftal on BLU/DNC (with Treasure Hound active) on Firesday to finish Trial 167. Over the course of one Vana'day, approximately 1 hour real-time, I killed 75 crabs, finishing the trial. And in that time, exactly 1 flame geode dropped.

Perhaps I'm just not exceedingly well-versed in the "best" way to farm these geodes, but it's not like I've been lazy. Especially for fire trials, with heat waves being somewhat rare, you are often restricted to only the Vana'day in question, if you're lucky enough to be online and available (nothing else going on) during that one-hour stretch. Is there a better way to go about this than mindlessly killing things and getting one drop an hour?

[Tsukino_Kaji]

For reference purposes, I've been working on the STR/attack elemental sword lately. I headed into Kuftal on BLU/DNC (with Treasure Hound active) on Firesday to finish Trial 167. Over the course of one Vana'day, approximately 1 hour real-time, I killed 75 crabs, finishing the trial. And in that time, exactly 1 flame geode dropped.

Perhaps I'm just not exceedingly well-versed in the "best" way to farm these geodes, but it's not like I've been lazy. Especially for fire trials, with heat waves being somewhat rare, you are often restricted to only the Vana'day in question, if you're lucky enough to be online and available (nothing else going on) during that one-hour stretch. Is there a better way to go about this than mindlessly killing things and getting one drop an hour?

Weather gets you a better drop rate, but fire is nearly non-existant. Even more so to anyone past leve 50 and any higher level areas that contain said weather are more likely to drop ifritites instead.
Also....
Why didn't you kill crabs in aby in a quarter the time?

[RAIST]

To catch the fire weather on any kind of regular basis, you need to track the game calendar to know when to watch for it. It's most frequent around the Summer cycle.

Curently, we are in the Winter season and it is very rare... like once every 36 hours rare at times, even in Altepa. As we pass the middle of Spring and work towards Summer, it starts showing progressively more often until it will actually start popping on back-to-back game days and then tapers off as we leave Summer and go into the Fall season. The pattern should start picking up as we come out of this weekend (Summer season opens up late on 5/6 to early 5/7 depending on your time zone).

This cycle repeats roughly ever 14 days or so, so once you get in the groove with the cycles you can start planning more accordingly if you REALLY want to dedicate the time to farming them. Using the weather reporting site can help a lot too (it goes down from time to time, but when it's up it's a great tool).