Quote Originally Posted by hiko View Post
it's not absentee play because they interact with nothing in game.
The cleaver IS playing.

smn case: NOBODY is playing but mob are killed
Think you may be kinda countering your own argument there.

Cleaver does the killing with no action taken by an afk player---afk player receives rewards for doing nothing.

Avatar does the killing with no action taken by an afk player---afk player receives rewards for doing nothing.

In one scenario, a different player is actively doing the killing while in the other it is the player's pet.

In both scenarios, the afk player is still doing nothing and getting rewarded. It's like pronouncing Pecan as either Pea-can or Pea-kahn...both refer to the same nut. But does the afk leecher get reported? No, because the absentee play in this scenario is generally accepted by everyone, probably in large part because they want to take advantage of it too. however, in this particular incident, the activity was locking people out---not because they were afk, but because they had siezed control of all the camps.

So, you see, the problem is not so much the absenteeism---it is more with the actions of a handful of players taking over an area and locking others out from participation. This is not the case in the Cleave party--the alliance/party agrees on the terms, some in fact may have even paid for the opportunity to leech. AFK play has been pretty much accepted now because of the whole abyssea/GoV/FoV situation--but if you are running an entire area and preventing others from advancing a trial, then the call goes out "Houston, we have a problem...".

Thus, this behavior was caught by SE and flagged as unacceptable because they were monopolizing camps people wanted for their own purpose. Otherwise, this likely would have never been reported. It wasn't because of SMN auto-attack, nor AFK play. The camps are being taken over because of specific aspects of the mobs at those camps, and preventing others from using them. Were it not for them being a good target for trials, probably no one would have cared (unless it was proven to be disrupting the economy or something, but...that's a different animal there).