Quote Originally Posted by Economizer View Post
Warrior sub is great for holding hate because it pumps out more damage, especially on harder mobs, this sub should probably be your default in party play unless you have a good reason not to (additionally it adds several procs in Abyssea, especially important if you are missing a WAR).
Good point, WAR is the best.

Quote Originally Posted by Economizer View Post
On easier mobs that you might want to solo, Dancer sub can be extremely helpful for the self-healing, and as an added bonus you get access to a few hybrid abilities.
Mage friend/mule is better, subbing DNC is doing it wrong.

Quote Originally Posted by Economizer View Post
Red Mage sub has Fast Cast and Magic Attack Bonus if you want to play more Ninjutsu based,
If you want to do magic damage switch to RDM, BLM or SCH

Quote Originally Posted by Economizer View Post
while having a few things for more solo-oriented play,
RDM is far superior than NIN if you want to solo magic stuff to death, quit being foolish.

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although this is an interesting combination if you are trying to hold hate on a flying monster using Ninjustsu nukes.
If it flys and it matters your elemental damage spells wont be enough damage to hold hate no matter what gear or sub you're using unless no one else is doing anything.

Quote Originally Posted by Economizer View Post
Dark Knight gives easy access to Stun while having a few melee related buffs (there are mobs that you might wish to Stun, and it is far better to have yourself backing up your stunners in a lowman with Stuns then expecting your healer to not only use a vastly inferior sub but also to be focusing on Stuns rather then healing).
Learn to tank so you take less damage and your mages don't have to worry about you and they will have plenty of time to stun. I've never had a problem tanking, main healing and main stunning on NIN+WHM. And seriously.....? BLM is the preferred sub so you can D2 yourself when you're done with whatever you're doing.

Quote Originally Posted by Economizer View Post
There are all cases where these can more useful then a bit of extra melee damage, however you have to thing about the situation carefully before deciding. Generally however, if you are in a party, you can't go wrong with Warrior as a sub, it does what a ninja is usually expected to do.
There are situations where other subs can be useful, but all these situations arise due to bad play style/no friends/no mule.