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    Player Elexia's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel_Hatcher View Post
    Nor do they all have Raise III, point?

    Obtainable != Everyone can get it with ease
    Obtainable = The ability to get it in general, not blatantly designed to exclude a large playerbase from gaining it.

    Raise III = Obtainable very easily by very easy NMs.

    Arise = Specifically designed that IN THEIR WORDS, not every WHM will have it due to the difficulty of gaining it. (What makes it difficult is to be determined.)

    Raise III and not everyone having it = No one wanting or needing to fight Kirin or WHM Quadav "HNM", this is why not everyone has it, with Abyssea Raise III is almost near useless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    Obtainable = The ability to get it in general, not blatantly designed to exclude a large playerbase from gaining it.

    Raise III = Obtainable very easily by very easy NMs.

    Arise = Specifically designed that IN THEIR WORDS, not every WHM will have it due to the difficulty of gaining it. (What makes it difficult is to be determined.)

    Raise III and not everyone having it = No one wanting or needing to fight Kirin or WHM Quadav "HNM", this is why not everyone has it, with Abyssea Raise III is almost near useless.
    Obtainable = To succeed in gaining possession of as the result of planning or endeavor; acquire.

    The word does NOT mean that the majority can get it, simply that it can be obtained. Difficulty is irrelevant, if 1 person out of 1 million can get it then it is obtainable.

    It's no wonder English posts get translated so badly to English.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel_Hatcher View Post
    Obtainable = To succeed in gaining possession of as the result of planning or endeavor; acquire.
    Ok fine, Mr. Word Parser. I would like for it to be realistically obtainable by whoever wants to use it. A challenge? That's fine. Time consuming? No problem. Tucked away where only a tiny fraction will ever even have the slimmest of chances of it dropping? No thanks. Find some other way to make yourself a special snowflake.
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    Player Daniel_Hatcher's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camiie View Post
    Ok fine, Mr. Word Parser. I would like for it to be realistically obtainable by whoever wants to use it. A challenge? That's fine. Time consuming? No problem. Tucked away where only a tiny fraction will ever even have the slimmest of chances of it dropping? No thanks. Find some other way to make yourself a special snowflake.
    Clarity is a nice thing to have, especially when it is potentially being translated to Japanese, or any other language.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel_Hatcher View Post
    Clarity is a nice thing to have, especially when it is potentially being translated to Japanese, or any other language.
    Yeah, because up to this point players have been so unclear about the disappointment with how the latest round of spells were acquired....
    It's fine if they want to make spells more difficult to obtain or left entirely to the devices of the playerbase to distribute based solely upon supply and demand; just make it so other jobs have to obtain their job abilities via a sellable drop as well.
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    Player Daniel_Hatcher's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Salvation View Post
    Yeah, because up to this point players have been so unclear about the disappointment with how the latest round of spells were acquired....
    It's fine if they want to make spells more difficult to obtain or left entirely to the devices of the playerbase to distribute based solely upon supply and demand; just make it so other jobs have to obtain their job abilities via a sellable drop as well.
    You want mages to pay even more money for the JA's.... I see!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel_Hatcher View Post
    Obtainable != Everyone can get it with ease
    Contradicts vvv

    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel_Hatcher View Post
    Obtainable = To succeed in gaining possession of as the result of planning or endeavor; acquire.

    The word does NOT mean that the majority can get it, simply that it can be obtained. Difficulty is irrelevant, if 1 person out of 1 million can get it then it is obtainable.

    It's no wonder English posts get translated so badly to English.
    And since we're having an English lesson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel_Hatcher View Post
    You want mages to pay even more money for the JA's.... I see!
    plurals do not need an apostraphe.
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