[dev1102] Meteor had better be obtainable!

[Ritsuka]

And it'll go to people who don't even have BLM levelled.

you mean it go to someone who doesn't know how to use blm. By now who doesn't have black mage leveled? (X.X)

[Daniel_Hatcher]

Obtainable = The ability to get it in general, not blatantly designed to exclude a large playerbase from gaining it.

Raise III = Obtainable very easily by very easy NMs.

Arise = Specifically designed that IN THEIR WORDS, not every WHM will have it due to the difficulty of gaining it. (What makes it difficult is to be determined.)

Raise III and not everyone having it = No one wanting or needing to fight Kirin or WHM Quadav "HNM", this is why not everyone has it, with Abyssea Raise III is almost near useless.

Obtainable = To succeed in gaining possession of as the result of planning or endeavor; acquire.

The word does NOT mean that the majority can get it, simply that it can be obtained. Difficulty is irrelevant, if 1 person out of 1 million can get it then it is obtainable.

It's no wonder English posts get translated so badly to English.

[Camiie]

Obtainable = To succeed in gaining possession of as the result of planning or endeavor; acquire.

Ok fine, Mr. Word Parser. I would like for it to be realistically obtainable by whoever wants to use it. A challenge? That's fine. Time consuming? No problem. Tucked away where only a tiny fraction will ever even have the slimmest of chances of it dropping? No thanks. Find some other way to make yourself a special snowflake.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

Ok fine, Mr. Word Parser. I would like for it to be realistically obtainable by whoever wants to use it. A challenge? That's fine. Time consuming? No problem. Tucked away where only a tiny fraction will ever even have the slimmest of chances of it dropping? No thanks. Find some other way to make yourself a special snowflake.

Clarity is a nice thing to have, especially when it is potentially being translated to Japanese, or any other language.

[Salvation]

Clarity is a nice thing to have, especially when it is potentially being translated to Japanese, or any other language.

Yeah, because up to this point players have been so unclear about the disappointment with how the latest round of spells were acquired....
It's fine if they want to make spells more difficult to obtain or left entirely to the devices of the playerbase to distribute based solely upon supply and demand; just make it so other jobs have to obtain their job abilities via a sellable drop as well.

[Vold]

My bold predictions:

1)Arise, Meteor, eventually Massacre Elegy, and Cat Sith summon - possibly more to be added later for RDM and SCH - will be new "relic scrolls" as the magic counterpart to relic weapons with the idea of few people having access to them.

2)Final VW boss will be flippin impossible without 6 SMNs rotating Perfect Defense for zerg. Even then you will lose at least 50% of the time due to a random deathga type move that kills you deader than hell. Said boss will drop 1 item that goes towards the magian trials for relic spells/song/summon and will cost a shitzillion gil to complete. Because why bother with quests when you can just Magianfy it.

3)Also said mega finale boss will be set up so that it cannot be spammed endlessly. For example: Shinny boy. Requirements to purchase KI to battle mega finale boss: 100,000 cruor.

4)Inevitably have 0.0001% of the population proclaim how easy it is and dive head first into the new time sink because making a shitbillion gil and spending it faster than you can make it is very very fun. It's not like you have anything else to buy anyways.

5)SE announces that they will not change things because 3 people are already working on the scrolls after seeing what the trials entails via the TEST SERVER.

Because this ain't your sissy assed WoW or Aion or EQ or EQ2 or STO or SWTOR or DC universe or LotR. This is FFXI. And it's your second job.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

Yeah, because up to this point players have been so unclear about the disappointment with how the latest round of spells were acquired....
It's fine if they want to make spells more difficult to obtain or left entirely to the devices of the playerbase to distribute based solely upon supply and demand; just make it so other jobs have to obtain their job abilities via a sellable drop as well.

You want mages to pay even more money for the JA's.... I see!

[Babekeke]

Obtainable != Everyone can get it with ease

Contradicts vvv

Obtainable = To succeed in gaining possession of as the result of planning or endeavor; acquire.

The word does NOT mean that the majority can get it, simply that it can be obtained. Difficulty is irrelevant, if 1 person out of 1 million can get it then it is obtainable.

It's no wonder English posts get translated so badly to English.

And since we're having an English lesson:

You want mages to pay even more money for the JA's.... I see!

plurals do not need an apostraphe.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

Contradicts vvv

It really doesn't.

[Arcon]

Contradicts vvv

No.

plurals do not need an apostraphe.

Technically it's not wrong either when it's an abbreviation, though, which annoys me, because it should be.