Suggestion: Break the game, SE

[ishvara]

I agree, SE should put us out of our misery and probaly stop this game. I'm holding out hope for a new road map that will pique my interest or justify holding on longer. I'm really disappointed at the new content and the 99 relic trial. i worked so hard to get a bravura, solo/low man style. To be totally cut out from getting it to 99 is unconscionable. I mostly wait around for void shouts and those are slowing up lately, and the drop rates are well documented.

[Anapingofness]

That's really it. People don't want to put in the time to get nothing for it. That's how old FFXI was, you kill the same mob a hundred times and get nothing for it.

I had a friend who literally went 0/200 on JEJ. That's ridiculous! Personally I was 0/7 before I gave up on the stupid thing. The thing is, JEJ is a normal NM. Endgame things can take an even longer amount of time. Months to years even, and for what? A very marginal increase in stats. The time and effort spent to getting some of the gear in endgame was not worth the effort spent.

Abyssea changed that and people reacted positively. Now they're going back to the old way of thinking. Of course people are going to be upset. I've been with FFXI since 2005. The fact that they're going back to that very outdated way of thinking is very upsetting.

The way I see it, I am paying them to make this game fun and exciting for me. So is everyone else. Therefore we are very much so entitled to have the game improve. More importantly, I am giving SE my time to play this game. That's something they can't refund even if they wanted to. I realize it is a very callous way of looking at things but it's true. No, I don't have to play the game and I wasn't forced to play it. Fact is, I've chosen to play it much like everyone else here but that's all the more reason SE should be a bit more serious about this, don't you think? It's all the more reason that SE should respect their player base.

This game needs a breath of innovation. That innovation has practically nothing to do with the graphics. Even though this game has been out for 10 years it is still very beautiful. That in itself is a testament to the artistic talent SE possesses. Yes, after 10 years the graphics could use a bit of polish but they won't make or break the game.

What I mean is that the innovation that the game so desperately needs is the will to accept that this game has to change with the times. It needs to be more available to potential customers. That is both content wise and the ease of actually getting the game on your machine.

[Anapingofness]

I agree, SE should put us out of our misery and probaly stop this game. I'm holding out hope for a new road map that will pique my interest or justify holding on longer. I'm really disappointed at the new content and the 99 relic trial. i worked so hard to get a bravura, solo/low man style. To be totally cut out from getting it to 99 is unconscionable. I mostly wait around for void shouts and those are slowing up lately, and the drop rates are well documented.

Seriously. That thought has crossed my mind as well since I opted to go the solo/low man route. The fact that when I hit lvl 95 with the trial weapon means that I have to stop is unacceptable. Completely and utterly unacceptable.

What was SE thinking allowing us to low man the weapons only most of the way? If they have given us the option to start it low man/solo then they should have allowed us to get the weapon to 99 the same way.

[Glamdring]

I agree, SE should put us out of our misery and probaly stop this game. I'm holding out hope for a new road map that will pique my interest or justify holding on longer. I'm really disappointed at the new content and the 99 relic trial. i worked so hard to get a bravura, solo/low man style. To be totally cut out from getting it to 99 is unconscionable. I mostly wait around for void shouts and those are slowing up lately, and the drop rates are well documented.

This is actually a fairly simple fix if they want to think about it. Add another drop source. I can't be the only one who's thought that it might be time to add some 1-3 man BCNM type battles to the game. You want the time sink SE? farming pop items takes time, done. They could also add the drops to some of the other content they are currently redoing, level 75-99 ZNM comes to mind.

Here's an idea, end-game Balista-type events with Heavy Metal rewards to the winning side. If you are trying to revive older content PvP is one that hasn't seen alot of use in a long time... maybe because you get nothing out of it but regaining whatever inventory space whatever consumables you use in it were occupying.

[Aquilla]

This is actually a fairly simple fix if they want to think about it. Add another drop source. I can't be the only one who's thought that it might be time to add some 1-3 man BCNM type battles to the game. You want the time sink SE? farming pop items takes time, done. They could also add the drops to some of the other content they are currently redoing, level 75-99 ZNM comes to mind.

Here's an idea, end-game Balista-type events with Heavy Metal rewards to the winning side. If you are trying to revive older content PvP is one that hasn't seen alot of use in a long time... maybe because you get nothing out of it but regaining whatever inventory space whatever consumables you use in it were occupying.

see? that's the kinds of suggestions that i'm talkin' about ! I love both of those ideas. squeenix, get on it.

[Dallas]

Letting people full-time godmode isn't the answer.

I think Disgaea has great potential for an MMO

[hideka]

what you all failed to mention or even realize is that SE is using the funds from this game to fund the development of FF14. they moved our GOOD dev team over to 14 and gave us back the loltanaka dev team. SE has no intention of doing ANYTHING drastic in this game ever again. it is their hope that this game will fizzle out to the point of extinction so people will move over to FF14. this is their ultimate goal. mark my words, by Jan 2013 when FF14 hits PS3, FF11 will be done for, wether it be shut down for good, or everyone is forced to migrate to 14, it will be done. enjoy your last year.

[wildsprite]

I'll put in my 2 cents here, I want to see them fix the mess that is FFXI, and yes regardless of what you think of it, the game is still a mess, one that I don't think they have any intention of cleaning up due to lolXIV, I said it before and I'll say it again, if FFXI dies I wont be going to another SE MMO, especially not FFXIV which they should not be putting so much effin time and money into, the game was a big failure, and they claim it taints the Final Fantasy name, oh BS SE, the game taints nothing but itself, give it up and make FFXI fun enough to make players want to return and play and attract new players, stop making excuses, tell us the truth with your intentions, your failure FFXIV will not give you the returns you expect, if you kill FFXI for FFXIV then bubye SE have fun with your mess

[Dew]

Problem is that after Abyssea they went downhill instead of making it go uphill. Abyssea was a good start. After that they turned around and instead of buffing stuff they started nerfing everyone and everything they could. After 24 levels past 75 you would think your character would be much stronger, but that's not the case with all the nerfs coming.

Characters have barely got any hp/mp/stats since 75. Even the damage scale from what you could do at 75 to now isn't much. At 99 characters should be doing a ton more then at 75 and the new nms should have x3-20 times the power of 75 mobs. Adding super powdered mobs, but not powering up characters doesn't help ether.

Another problem is adding stuff the the game and never fixing it. Taking almost a year to fix an item that never even worked when it came out and has been reported broken 40+ times is a big problem. Don't add broken items. Why even bother adding the item if its never going to even do what it is supposed to. Not to mention that getting it to even drop requires luck.

Adding backward events also makes it go downhill. Getting drops shouldn't be based on how lucky you get with a random number generator. Luck should never play a factor in getting something. It should require skill and effort.

Also quit adding trashcan value rewards. Need less garbage and more rewards in events. Adding armor with 1/3rd of the stats of a lv75 armor at lv99 is kind of dumb. The game shouldn't be progressing backwards, but forwards. Nerfing stuff isn't doing anything, but making the game even worse. All this Balance stuff is retarded.

[Aquilla]

Regression is the problem.

Another problem is the sheer number of content that goes dead and stays dead. Sure, there's a veritable ton of stuff in the game that CAN be done. There's all sorts of battle stuff, like garrison, eco-war, ballista, expeditionary force, etc. that's fairly old. Slightly newer stuff, pankration, chocobo racing, assault/nyzul/einherjar/salvage, ZNM, MMM -- ton of it was lol-worthy from the getgo. Even seasonal content got stale fast. Mumor, anyone?

It doesn't take a lot to make people happy at an event. Make it accessible to players without jumping through a ton of hoops -- and give worthwhile rewards.

XP is a good reward. Meaningful XP. Nobody complained when they buffed how much xp Besieged/Campaign gave.
Crafting mats: not a *Bad* idea, but they need to be more relevant. Maybe make the crafting mats correlate with event or with the person's highest craft. I'd love another source of dragon meat, for example.
How about an event that gives xp for a craft? Or guild points?
Evolith: how many times has it been said that it'd suck way less if a.) you could attach stuff to more than just highly specific gear and b.) it had stats that weren't retardedly specific.
Gil.
Magian upgrade stuff. Clearly aby armor wasn't meant to be all that difficult to obtain, so will it matter if seals drop from other events? Take the solo lv60 ENM, for example -- that could give seals.
Dyna-currency.
Titles.

all of this and more has been said. Most people aren't looking for godmode -- just an appreciable sign that there is progression. What's the point of upgrading my gear and leveling my character to never notice a difference without a parser?