Walk of Echoes

[Kristal]

despite these updates to WoE, this is what will happen:

That's what you see when you check at 'empty' times. At JP times, especially in the weekends, it's pretty packed. It's actually possible to see when the JP log off, because one run you got 30 people, the next 3.

Removing the medallion limitation means a LOT more WoE can be done, and you don't have to wait for a new one. That should help bring more people, more loot, and more WoE currency! I'm almost hitting stack limits on some of my coins, but dice and residues aren't that forthcoming.

WoE is empty? Do a shout in Jeuno, and get people to come.

[Quetzacoatl]

That's what you see when you check at 'empty' times. At JP times, especially in the weekends, it's pretty packed. It's actually possible to see when the JP log off, because one run you got 30 people, the next 3.

Removing the medallion limitation means a LOT more WoE can be done, and you don't have to wait for a new one. That should help bring more people, more loot, and more WoE currency! I'm almost hitting stack limits on some of my coins, but dice and residues aren't that forthcoming.

WoE is empty? Do a shout in Jeuno, and get people to come.

lol "empty times." You realize we're on different servers, right?

Nobody cares to do WoE anyway because you can get some of the same scrolls from VW. And who the hell makes Gimpyreans anymore?

[Babekeke]

lol "empty times." You realize we're on different servers, right?

Nobody cares to do WoE anyway because you can get some of the same scrolls from VW. And who the hell makes Gimpyreans anymore?

I'm quite glad to see that people are still unaware of some the the awesome gear that only drops in WoE, so that I can keep making gil from it.

[Karbuncle]

lol "empty times." You realize we're on different servers, right?

Nobody cares to do WoE anyway because you can get some of the same scrolls from VW. And who the hell makes Gimpyreans anymore?

Again, You can continue to think that way, but WoE Is not all about the Scrolls... These items:

http://www.ffxiah.com/item/10505/nomkahpa-mittens
http://www.ffxiah.com/item/18819/elder-grip
http://www.ffxiah.com/item/10990/engulfer-cape
http://www.ffxiah.com/item/10958/nefarious-collar
http://www.ffxiah.com/item/10828/windbuffet-belt
http://www.ffxiah.com/item/10946/coatl-gorget
http://www.ffxiah.com/item/10765/arvina-ringlet
http://www.ffxiah.com/item/10827/prosilio-belt
http://www.ffxiah.com/item/10989/tempered-cape
http://www.ffxiah.com/item/10874/chersos-helm

To name a few, make a lot of bank. People who are smart care about Walk of Echoes. Its one of the bigger money makers out there, and with the day limit removed... It just got better

[Babekeke]

Not to mention flux 3!

[Alhanelem]

Still nobody will do WoE.

On shiva it can actually be quite busy at times, but pretty much only during JP prime time.

[Sparthos]

lol "empty times." You realize we're on different servers, right?

Nobody cares to do WoE anyway because you can get some of the same scrolls from VW. And who the hell makes Gimpyreans anymore?

I made (5) Gimpyreans way before Emps became mainstream and guess what? I'd like to finish them. At the current rates this would cost me nearly 75M gil for the inferior version of the Empyreans.

Ridiculous.

[Zinato]

How is that? DPS of Woe Weps is underwhelming for the needed effort. 85 or 90 Empy will outdo a 99 WoE....

Ukon 85 Base DMG 122
Ukon 90 Base DMG 131

Maschu +3 95 Base DMG 134 (Straight Base DMG thats higher then even 90 Ukon)
Shamash 99 Base DMG 144

Bear in mind yes 95/99 Ukon would be superior however, ask yourself how many players will ever get a 95 empyrean. On the contrary 99 WoE is relatively easy by comparison and whats more if you can go more then once a game day you can spam it much faster. This hold true for nearly every weapon type, and I would like to see numbers showing the difference between a 85/90 Empy vs 95/99 WoE I'm betting the difference isn't gamebreaking.

So sure Empy 85/90 is easier (it wouldn't be if WoE was more populated) then comes the roadblock many players will never overcome. Those that do will deserve the more powerful weapon they will own.

[bryangelos]

Aftermath plays a huge role in a true empy tho, take a kannagi nin 85 emp vs a nin 99 woe. I'm pretty sure the kannagi nin will far out DD the woe one. However don't get me wrong i do understand base dmg will make the ws higher, so jobs like war in vw with unlimited tp might see little gain.

[Eri]

Ukon 85 Base DMG 122
Ukon 90 Base DMG 131

Maschu +3 95 Base DMG 134 (Straight Base DMG thats higher then even 90 Ukon)
Shamash 99 Base DMG 144

Bear in mind yes 95/99 Ukon would be superior however, ask yourself how many players will ever get a 95 empyrean. On the contrary 99 WoE is relatively easy by comparison and whats more if you can go more then once a game day you can spam it much faster. This hold true for nearly every weapon type, and I would like to see numbers showing the difference between a 85/90 Empy vs 95/99 WoE I'm betting the difference isn't gamebreaking.

So sure Empy 85/90 is easier (it wouldn't be if WoE was more populated) then comes the roadblock many players will never overcome. Those that do will deserve the more powerful weapon they will own.

Don't get me wrong i hate Abys and my WoE Weps are 90 and 95 ..... but the 99 will be a pain to get atm.

But given low base dmg high delay and notaftermath of any kind. that diffrence will be huge.