Raise the minimum allowable job level in Abyssea from 30 to 70+

[Kailea_Nagisa]

Because grinding exp is by far the worst part of the game, more people have quit this game because of the grind than any other reason. By allowing people to accelerate the grind then they can actually get to the fun parts of the game and retain players that way instead of having to rely on the artificial time sink of level grinding.

My way would still reduce the grind, if you come to play an MMORPG and get annoyed that it takes you a month to cap level... you need to go play something else -.-

Heck my estimate of a month, was really the long end anyway, with how fast some people are it could only take 2 weeks.

[Nacht]

I like bringing low level jobs to level in abyssea because it's fast compared to other ways. For the record, I ask the leader if I can leech with one character while playing a lvl 90 mule as some sort of mage. Usually stand at the ops guy on my main and don't bother getting ops at all on the mule.

I leveled BRD back in the day and after bringing that to dynamis/einherjar, I decided I hated it because the range on horde lullaby was smaller than sleepga and it was aggravating me. That was a lot of time wasted; BRD is still 75 for me.

After they announced they were planning the level increase, everyone in my linkshell needed to level SJs. So we'd make linkshell pts when we weren't doing events. Some people also leveled new jobs. I leveled SMN to 65 before I decided I decided I didn't want to play it. That was a lot of time wasted; SMN is still 65 for me.

A couple months ago I decided to level WAR and got to 80 in 2 days. I went to skill up and eventually decided I didn't like WAR. I then leveled NIN to 87 in a day and eventually decided I liked playing NIN.

The reason people leech is because they can't find a party and the lvling is real slow.

No. Prior to abyssea, leveling new jobs was annoying. Now it's easier to level the job then test drive these jobs. I wouldn't have bothered leveling a new job if I had to do it the old way. That shit is just annoying after the first few jobs. I leech because I don't want to go through the crap of spending weeks of effort leveling a job only to decide I don't like it.

[Pharaun]

My way would still reduce the grind, if you come to play an MMORPG and get annoyed that it takes you a month to cap level... you need to go play something else -.-

Heck my estimate of a month, was really the long end anyway, with how fast some people are it could only take 2 weeks.

I've put in my time grinding, and back in the day I didn't mind it so much, but now I'd rather spend the limited time I have to play the game doing something that is enjoyable. The rather vocal minority gets all upset because they feel that everything has to be a time sink in this game and if anyone figures out a way to make that time sink less painful then they get all upset about it.

For all the yelling and screaming and whining and multiple threads about the same damn thing none of you have been able to give a reasonable answer as to why the grind should be put back into this game. When pressed it usually boils down to well I had to grind, so should everyone else. And when pressed further it turns out that most of you didn't even do the really hard grind, it was all post ToAU. I did my grinding when a 6k/hr party was great and an 8k/hr party was fantastic, 10k/hr was unheard of, and nothing any of you say will make me want to go back to something like that again. And yes anything outside of abyssea is similar since you would be going from 200k/hr down to 50k/hr even with the exp adjustments.

[magnius]

I did my grinding when a 6k/hr party was great and an 8k/hr party was fantastic, 10k/hr was unheard of, and nothing any of you say will make me want to go back to something like that again.

Yes! Those days were a complete nightmare...And as I'm sitting here trying to remember a good moment in those times(outside of partying with friends), I come to realize I don't even want to think about it....