New WHM spell, Araise. It will be extremely difficult to obtain.

[Runespider]

This post is like a great big checklist of all the points you make in response to nearly every thread. I think you should call it Runespider's Theory.

I notice you don't argue against everything I said though, you may not like the way I present it but you agree with what I'm saying?

It will only go to Japanese players! Gajin do not deserve Arise w

You put something about JP in every post you make, there is no such favouritism. They want to punish us all equally.

Play an MMO made by Sega, then you will see favouritism. Content made only for japanese players, or converted over 6+ months later. You are borderline racist with your constant JP hating >_>

Edit: I could see a series of quests & pre-quests that'd be needed, i'd hope like Sleepga II

The only way I can see "extreme difficulty" being any kind of quest is if it involves mobs that require alliances of the best players, with a RNG chance for it to pop once every month, that has death lasers for eyes and that is so rare of a drop nobody can prove they even added it outside of dat mining. If you think "Extreme difficuly" = a quest like sleepga 2 then you must of just got back and missed the last 2 years.

[Vold]

I notice you don't argue against everything I said though, you may not like the way I present it but you agree with what I'm saying?



You put something about JP in every post you make, there is no such favouritism. They want to punish us all equally.

Play an MMO made by Sega, then you will see favouritism. Content made only for japanese players, or converted over 6+ months later. You are borderline racist with your constant JP hating >_>



The only way I can see "extreme difficulty" being any kind of quest is if it involves mobs that require alliances of the best players, with a RNG chance for it to pop once every month, that has death lasers for eyes and that is so rare of a drop nobody can prove they even added it outside of dat mining. If you think "Extreme difficuly" = a quest like sleepga 2 then you must of just got back and missed the last 2 years.

I think they meant a real quested scroll and not some half assed attempt and call it a day, not that sleepga II = extremely difficult.

Let us not forget that for many years relics were for all intent and purposes, extremely difficult to obtain. They still are to an extent. The only thing that's changed is they are far more accessible now. Dedicated players don't have to go through a LS anymore. In a fairly short amount of time they can farm Dynamis everyday to accomplish the task. It is entirely possible for this spell to be attained through similar means. My point of view: if they can't even be bothered enough to separate lv99 weapon trial requirements, they can't be bothered to give araise a quest that will be one for the MMO history books.

So, what's the likely method? A new moogle NPC that handles all spells from here on out. All those nice, desired, perky spells we've been wanting forever will go through a magian moogle. You'll probably find a base scroll somewhere to turn in for the first trial, and proceed to do x amount of trials, ending with something like 2,000 items from Arch PW or ARCH Arch ADL or whatever NM that can probably be renamed 'Umad'. Or perhaps they'll just be chucked onto magey relics, a new lv99 trial for players who got through stage 2. It's far more forgiving than it was before. But if they want to be super cheap about it they'll just throw it on a floor 100 nyzul boss or a future equivalent.

All I know is by reading this, you, whoever you may be, have agreed to not hold me accountable if any of these ideas come to pass. You must take the "oh they already thought of that idea and this content was already in development before you mentioned it" approach. 'Cause remember, SE is all seeing and have thought up of all ideas that are possible before we do.

[Unleashhell]

Considering they claim 99 mythic/relic/emps super easy to obtain, I fear what they mean by "extremely difficult"...

When did they claim they were "Super easy"?

[Sparthos]

When did they claim they were "Super easy"?

They claimed most players would finish a Relic 99. I doubt that frankly given the lack of incentive.

[Unleashhell]

Lack of incentive or lack or friends? Big difference. Get friends or more LS members. People are acting like they are impossible to get. Sorry they arent.

[Runespider]

Lack of incentive or lack or friends? Big difference. Get friends or more LS members. People are acting like they are impossible to get. Sorry they arent.

They killed most linkshells, most dynamis groups and now bring this kind of stuff at a point when, lets be honest very few players can be bothered to re-establish themselves into shells to get points and deal with drama again.

The nature of the content they designed here is actually very nasty, it's not a matter of join a ls, get 5 items and done. It's a matter of "grats on finishing your relic to 99, now you are indebted to do the other 17+ peoples multiple relics/emps/mythics to finish theirs too" and you're a **** if you don't come to every run afterwards (hence items needed ). Ingenious really, turns an annoying trial into a really long timesink which locks you in for no reward, so this trial isn't actually "get 5 marrows", it's "kill ADL/rex/ or whatever till you finish every other persons weapon in the group" doesnt sound so easy now does it? I've done old XI content and I know how it works and the tricks the devs use to lock you in for the long haul.

[Mahoro]

I notice you don't argue against everything I said though, you may not like the way I present it but you agree with what I'm saying?

Nope, futile to argue with what was essentially a doomsday prediction, although I note the gaping assumption made in the very last sentence.

They killed most linkshells, most dynamis groups and now bring this kind of stuff at a point when, lets be honest very few players can be bothered to re-establish themselves into shells to get points and deal with drama again.

Their choice, their consequence. Also, SE doesn't kill linkshells, players kill linkshells! (semi-joke)

The nature of the content they designed here is actually very nasty, it's not a matter of join a ls, get 5 items and done. It's a matter of "grats on finishing your relic to 99, now you are indebted to do the other 17+ peoples multiple relics/emps/mythics to finish theirs too" and you're a **** if you don't come to every run afterwards (hence items needed ). Ingenious really, turns an annoying trial into a really long timesink which locks you in for no reward, so this trial isn't actually "get 5 marrows", it's "kill ADL/rex/ or whatever till you finish every other persons weapon in the group" doesnt sound so easy now does it? I've done old XI content and I know how it works and the tricks the devs use to lock you in for the long haul.

Doesn't take 17 to kill ADL. Also assumes the other people in your ally have a weapon to finish. Also assumes the person asking for help on ADL is an idiot who will indebt himself to helping someone on their Emp after (that would be funny, if you meant the Riftxxx stage :P).

EDIT: I agree with Spart though. I still think they misled the playerbase.

[Alhanelem]

We don't make warriors collect 60 AV toenails. They just have to get 50 Glavoid Shells, 50 Itzpapalotl Scales, and 75 Orthrus Claws. ^^

The difference here is that a weapon is not a job ability nor is it a permanent part of you.

They claimed most players would finish a Relic 99. I doubt that frankly given the lack of incentive.

No, they claimed that most players who *already finished previous trials* would LIKELY be able to complete it. They didn't say "super easy," nor did they say most of all players.

[Unleashhell]

They killed most linkshells, most dynamis groups and now bring this kind of stuff at a point when, lets be honest very few players can be bothered to re-establish themselves into shells to get points and deal with drama again.

The nature of the content they designed here is actually very nasty, it's not a matter of join a ls, get 5 items and done. It's a matter of "grats on finishing your relic to 99, now you are indebted to do the other 17+ peoples multiple relics/emps/mythics to finish theirs too" and you're a **** if you don't come to every run afterwards (hence items needed ). Ingenious really, turns an annoying trial into a really long timesink which locks you in for no reward, so this trial isn't actually "get 5 marrows", it's "kill ADL/rex/ or whatever till you finish every other persons weapon in the group" doesnt sound so easy now does it? I've done old XI content and I know how it works and the tricks the devs use to lock you in for the long haul.

It still is easy. At least for me. I have had a steady 30+ people in my LS for years now and we all work together. One thing I have said repeatedly on here... Whats the point of playing an MMO of you want to just play solo? Or if someone is one of those antisocial that refuses to be in a big LS? There is two sides of the fence here, some content is is just better suited for some some while other content is better suited for others. People want everything now and don't want to work for things later. Then if people can't to get everything now they come on here and /ragequit that there is nothing to do, nothing to work towards and say you bore me SE I'm quitting. People gotten very lazy and do not want to put effort into things anymore. That is whats destroying the game imo.

[Mahoro]

The difference here is that a weapon is not a job ability nor is it a permanent part of you.

Was comparing timesinks to timesinks. Already said I was. WHM has extraordinarily few, barring Mythics. A WHM without Yagrush is....99% of the playerbase. No aspersions cast by playerbase. A WAR without Ukon is unfortunately the sound of one hand clapping.

No, they claimed that most players who *already finished previous trials* would LIKELY be able to complete it. They didn't say "super easy," nor did they say most of all players.

Your sentence contains a logical fallacy. "Most of all players" would have no need to finish the trial if they are not "players who already finished previous trials." Why would anyone opine on the ability of "most of all players" to do this trial? It is assumed they are "players who finished previous trials."

Anyway, here's the actual quote:

The planned difficulty level for the corresponding Magian upgrade trials will be such that a majority of players with the appropriate level 95 equipment will likely be able to complete them.