New 99 trials

[Mahoro]

As a PLD-preferred piece, it's probably no more useful than the other glowy weapons for which people spam Voidwatch hundreds of times. Sort of the equivalent to Ephemeron for BLU and Coruscanti for THF/DNC, even though those items only benefit 1-2 jobs. Biggest difference being, outside of large LS's, people have had difficulty doing ADL runs whereas VW is extremely PUG-friendly.

[Runespider]

In 8 months when everyone pushed their relic to 99 after the initial wave...how do new relics get pushed to 99?

FFXI has always always been like this, if you don't do new missions shortly after they add them it's hard to get them done, if you don't do your VW clears soon after addition it's hard to get them done..same for everything. Everything in FFXI is a mad rush for the first 6 months after then extreme difficulty finding people to do them with after.

It's a joke they keep using the word balance and then throw this kind of content out, it really is. When they are forcing the vast majority of their players to completely opt out of the stuff they are making you would think they would realise they are doing it wrong, but no they just keep doing it.. I know their big plan is to make these trials horrific at the start for the hard hard core and then slowly reign them back to reality but to keep the handful happy they are upsetting everyone else. Not a good idea really in my opinion.

[Unctgtg]

I love everyone's logic. Trying to compare this game to 4 years ago. Not going to happen. SE really is driving players away. If they really do require us to get 20 ADLs items, they will hear it even more. They might have gotten the idea, of the number of topics, not just in the NA forums but the rest, we do not want this, and it is frankly stupid for them to even bring this into the game. 20 ADL kills for stage 2 would be sufficient.

[Nynja]

You copy pasted the exact same post in 3 threads...? why would you do that?

[Ravenmore]

As a PLD-preferred piece, it's probably no more useful than the other glowy weapons for which people spam Voidwatch hundreds of times. Sort of the equivalent to Ephemeron for BLU and Coruscanti for THF/DNC, even though those items only benefit 1-2 jobs. Biggest difference being, outside of large LS's, people have had difficulty doing ADL runs whereas VW is extremely PUG-friendly.

Those weapons are impovements(well if they ever fix one) and those two jobs DW. Not to mention other valueable drops.

[Mahoro]

Those weapons are impovements(well if they ever fix one) and those two jobs DW. Not to mention other valueable drops.

I guess the ultimate test would be if you had PLD and this thing dropped in the treasure pool during an LS event (ADL is unfortunately not PUG-friendly), would you cast lots or refrain entirely, saying its not an improvement to your job? I agree it's not as "useful" as Coruscanti though.

[MarkovChain]

seeing as ADL is still a crapshoot at 99, because of the blatant luck factor, the change accomplished nothing.

You guys really should have made it killshots so people can team up.

Realistically, you can only pop ADL once per day (sometimes you can get lucky on pops, and sometimes you get unlucky). Realistically, you're going to get a ~75% kill rate on ADL (if you kill the wrong clone twice in a row, your buffs will probably have wiped by then and you're done).

Since theres no teamup factor involved in the ridiculously stupid "get drop, turn in drop" system you guys want, you're pretty much looking at ~1 month per relic. Lets presume, in your 18 person alliance, which you WILL need for ADL, everyone has one relic, you're looking at a year and a half to upgrade everyones relic to 99a.


Once again, you guys have accomplished absolutely nothing.

More QQ about the game being hard ? Seriously though, 20 ADl is fine to me. The 1/kill thing might not be an issue. It's pretty easy to duo or trio one pop set per run, and all you have to do is find a group of 3-4 players willing to team up say once a week to kill muktiple ADLs in a run like you would for a KCNM. In all seriousness it's not too hard of an NM. I expect a decent 6 man group to kill it.

Somehow I can't see people farming Arch Dynamis Lord for the purpose of selling the upgrade item. If so, it's going to be sold for a lot more than 20mil. Otherwise I'd say it simply won't be worth it, and each person in the alliance would make more doing less work by farming currency.

Same can be said for metal plates however they can be found in bazars and most drops from VWNM are trash anyway. Guess what ? Right now riftdross/cinder are hard to find in bazars, but right when they allow the trials to be completed, you'll see plenty of them - even though the other drops stay the same as they are now.

[Tamoa]

Same can be said for metal plates however they can be found in bazars and most drops from VWNM are trash anyway. Guess what ? Right now riftdross/cinder are hard to find in bazars, but right when they allow the trials to be completed, you'll see plenty of them - even though the other drops stay the same as they are now.

Are you comparing doing voidwatch for heavy metal to sell, to doing ADL for Umbral Marrow to sell? Really?

Owait, for a second I forgot who I'm quoting here.

[Nynja]

More QQ about the game being hard ? Seriously though, 20 ADl is fine to me. The 1/kill thing might not be an issue. It's pretty easy to duo or trio one pop set per run, and all you have to do is find a group of 3-4 players willing to team up say once a week to kill muktiple ADLs in a run like you would for a KCNM. In all seriousness it's not too hard of an NM. I expect a decent 6 man group to kill it.

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[Alerith]

More QQ about the game being hard ? Seriously though, 20 ADl is fine to me. The 1/kill thing might not be an issue. It's pretty easy to duo or trio one pop set per run, and all you have to do is find a group of 3-4 players willing to team up say once a week to kill muktiple ADLs in a run like you would for a KCNM. In all seriousness it's not too hard of an NM. I expect a decent 6 man group to kill it.

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